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  • Green Hornet
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    #441
    you got it backwards. Talent and skills are the gifts of Floyd. However, Pacquiao overachieved considering his level of physical talent and limitations (small and short). In addition to achieving more outside the ring, and showing more class inside and outside the ring.

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    • Green Hornet
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      #442
      Hardto argue with this guy...he is all heart and soul for Pacquiao. No common sense though.

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      • daggum
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        #443
        i guess floyd forgot that he became p4p #2 after beating carlos alberto rios, justin juuko, and carlos gerena and p4p #1 after beating gatti. that wasn't the media building him up that was just hard earned cherry picking.

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        • K-DOGG
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          #444
          Originally posted by jvsnypes
          You put a lot of thought in that and made some great points. I respect your opinion. But in all honesty, I will never believe that a guy who has been fighting since he was 8 years old and is great at what he does would be scared to fight any man walking around at his weight. I truly believe that Floyd, his dad and his uncle passionately believes that Manny was using peds, so they refused to fight him. Its that simple. Plus Floyd and Arum hate each other. There is nothing hard to understand about that.
          While I do respect your opinion and grant the point about tension between Arum and Mayweather, I would stress that, overall, his career north of 135 really hasn't been overly impressive.

          While the victory over Judah and Hatton are what I consider the highpoints, it cannot be ignored that Gatti was so far over the hill, he was under it....as was Mitchell. Baldomir, while brave, was as slow as molasses in wintertime; and save his upset victory over Judah, hadn't accomplished really anything noteworthy.

          De La Hoya.....once again, a fighter well past his better days; and one could argue that there was a slight conflict of interest in the legitimacy of the bout considering that De La Hoya would be promoting Mayweather and making scads of cash with him......I'm not saying it was a fix 'cause it didn't need to be at that point in De La Hoya's career (he was done); but there's always a possibility of shananigans when money is involved.

          Then there's Cotto. While I personally don't think Cotto would have stood a chance against Mayweather at his best a few years before, I don't know anybody that thought he had a snowball's chance in hell of winning going into that fight.....and, it "felt" weird.

          Marquez....c'mon. Size difference, Hello. He might as well have taken his lunch money.

          Then of course there's the other Titan's of competition he's beaten since and before.

          My point is simply this. Mayweather, like Roy Jones Jr., didn't like taking chances....it's like playing craps with loaded dice. No true champion of "old" ducked the best fighters out there. Mayweather, like Jones Jr (no Michael Nunn, Nigel Benn, or Michelche...hell, I can't spell it; but you know who he was), and like Ray Leonard after Hagler.....gambled on what he thought were sure things.

          I'm not denying Floyd's physical ability; but I will say the second half of his career was a faįade, otherwise he would have fought Pacquiao, who fought several of the same opponents admittedly; but he started out at flyweight....and that's a slightly tougher hill to climb than the one Mayweather crossed.

          Ali still would have been considered a great fighter if he'd never come back in 70 and fought Frazier and Foreman; but AS Great?? I don't think so.

          Pacquiao, whether he could have beaten Mayweather or not, was Floyd's Frazier.......the people wanted it, it looked like a great fight on paper, and the world would have been watching. Greatness awaited.

          The dice just weren't loaded quite enough. The risk was too high. And Floyd settled for "really good"........like Ali would have been remembered if he'd never been tested....maybe "great"; but not "GREAT".

          Peace.

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          • kidrock09
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            #445
            hahaha

            Here we go again, a top level fighter using other top level fighter to hype his fight. I hope you Floyd will fight Manny once and for all. Or should wait till Manny retires and you suddenly face the media and announce that you will fight Manny. Coward? Dont be, just please dont be! Im starting to like you even with majority boring fights.

            You two/ both deserve all the credit anyway.

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            • kidrock09
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              #446
              hahahaha

              Originally posted by Green Hornet
              you got it backwards. Talent and skills are the gifts of Floyd. However, Pacquiao overachieved considering his level of physical talent and limitations (small and short). In addition to achieving more outside the ring, and showing more class inside and outside the ring.
              8 DIVISION WORLD CHAMP, his the only in history of boxing & will forever be remembered. While Floyd keeps get rid from Manny then Floyd will be remembered as the duck & scared.

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              • Reloaded
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                #447
                Originally posted by daggum
                i guess floyd forgot that he became p4p #2 after beating carlos alberto rios, justin juuko, and carlos gerena and p4p #1 after beating gatti. that wasn't the media building him up that was just hard earned cherry picking.
                Nobody his size can beat Floyd , now they got to bring bigger undefeated WCs to try , cant ever see a guy smaller than Floyd face planting him like a stone the way your snow job swan dived ,

                Manny is and always was a made to order WW hype job , have you ever asked yourself why it all paned out the way it has , have a look who is fighting who , have a look who planked out , have a look whos star is shining brighter , things happen for reasons the BShiiitters crumble and the real deal prevails its how things in life work out kiddo !

                lol you are an sucker in denial you got ****** into buying an imitation pair of sunnys from china town thinking its made of solid gold lol

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                • koboy
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                  #448
                  Originally posted by HeroBando
                  Fighting Pac is nothing like fighting JMM, especially a fat rock throwing taco eatin one. Look at his run at LW, all those fights were taxing on him, and all those guys get blown out by Pac in a hurry. Look at old Barrera, etc. JMM is a great fighter but without Pac on his resume he's not first ballot.
                  Thanks for proving my point.

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                  • The Big Dunn
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                    #449


                    above article makes really good points about floyd's statements and the issue as a whole.

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                    • billfifty
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                      #450
                      Originally posted by budfr
                      Sweet Pea?? the biggest coward in history. Floyd got a gift decision vs oscar. Juan M? Flyd was too big and still couldnīt hurt him and was on defensive mode most of the time. Juan m CAN BEAT HIM NOW. Pac fought Margarito and Floyd ducked him.
                      O'my God! Are you ******, dumb, or both...Sweet Pea a coward. Son you don't know boxing if a statement like that can come out of your mouth. And you cannot rewrite history....sorry....the above mentioned lost to floyd. At what point does the excuses stop.....it was gift, he was to big, he was on defensive mode, he had help from Batman....Geez.

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