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  • #91
    There's 3 things here:

    1. 152 is SWW, no question there
    2. But should the real belt (Ring or whatever) be contested below regulation weight? Like the OP says, it's not an alphabet belt, it's for the right to call yourself The Man at SWW, and that can only come at 154. It's double bad since The CW King already fought there twice, so you can't give him the benefit of the doubt and say, he'll grow into the weight and defend at full weight.
    3. The Ring is corrupt and garbage so forget them. I'm thinking the Championship will be at stake in any ranking that maintains the distinction between #1 and champ

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    • #92
      Originally posted by HeroBando View Post
      There's 3 things here:

      1. 152 is SWW, no question there
      2. But should the real belt (Ring or whatever) be contested below regulation weight? Like the OP says, it's not an alphabet belt, it's for the right to call yourself The Man at SWW, and that can only come at 154. It's double bad since The CW King already fought there twice, so you can't give him the benefit of the doubt and say, he'll grow into the weight and defend at full weight.
      3. The Ring is corrupt and garbage so forget them. I'm thinking the Championship will be at stake in any ranking that maintains the distinction between #1 and champ
      A fighter does not have to be at the maximum of the weight class he can be anything below the weight limit , Canelo was 153 last fight if he was 152 does that mean its a non title fight with Trout , posters need to get some common sense relative to the real world situation .

      If all these Pasc fanboys want to ride this BS then you better start stripping Mannys titles at WW and JMW .

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      • #93
        Originally posted by Reloaded View Post
        A fighter does not have to be at the maximum of the weight class he can be anything below the weight limit , Canelo was 153 last fight if he was 152 does that mean its a non title fight with Trout , posters need to get some common sense relative to the real world situation .

        If all these Pasc fanboys want to ride this BS then you better start stripping Mannys titles at WW and JMW .
        You missed my point 1, 2, and 3.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by hougigo View Post
          152 is still in the realm of JMW though. What weight class would it be in then if it wasn't JMW?
          It is a JMW bout because it's in between the bracket of 147.1 and 154. If a fight was at 148, that's JMW, if a fight was at 146, that's WW.
          Are you saying if the lineal champion at 154 signs on for a fight with a CW of 148 and loses. The guy who beat him could rightly be considered the lineal champ at JMW?

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          • #95
            Originally posted by Ro2535 View Post
            Are you saying if the lineal champion at 154 signs on for a fight with a CW of 148 and loses. The guy who beat him could rightly be considered the lineal champ at JMW?
            That's an extremist scenario but yes its legitimate even though your deal would never happen .

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            • #96
              Originally posted by Reloaded View Post
              That's an extremist scenario but yes its legitimate even though your deal would never happen .
              I admit it is extremist and unlikely to happen but the JMW division has one weight stipulation; both fighters can weigh whatever they like as long as its below 154. If you alter that rule, you alter what defines the JMW division. IF you 're talking about the WBA/WBC Super Duper Emerald Diamond blah blah belt I wouldn't care. They're largely meaningless. The Ring is supposed to have more credibility and that is getting eroded more and more every day

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