Comments Thread For: Canelo: Catch-Weight Wasn't Me, Don't Want it at 152

[The Big Dunn]

Hatton was approached by DLH about a fight at 147 before Pac was ever in the picture

true. if hatton beat floyd there was a good chance odh/hatton in wembly would've been made. Damn ODH woulda made like $75 mil.

[bojangles1987]

Pacquiao weighed more than DLH on fight night if I'm not mistaken, DLH being some 15-20 pounds lighter (on fight night) than in previous fights at 154. And Pacquiao was considered the #1 p4p in the world at the time. So yeah, he was able to play his cards to get DLH to drop down to 147.

You really don't have the slightest idea what you're talking about, in any of your posts.

[mannyfresh209]

You really don't have the slightest idea what you're talking about, in any of your posts.

Explain. Pacquiao was as low as Oscar's FOURTH option by what some of you are saying LOL. At that point, Oscar is desperate for a fight that's going to make him some $$$. Pacquiao is physically incapable of going up to 154 to fight. Oscar is physically incapable of dropping down past 147. Oscar is the shot-caller but is out of options. Oscar calls Pacquiao out for a fight at 147 (only viable option left for Oscar to make loads of cash).

Not hard to grasp the real reason they fought. MONEY. Oscar would have taken fights at 154 til the day he retired if he could've made the same money there. As per another person on this board "147 is where the money was." Couldn't be more true.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Explain. Pacquiao was as low as Oscar's FOURTH option by what some of you are saying LOL. At that point, Oscar is desperate for a fight that's going to make him some $$$. Pacquiao is physically incapable of going up to 154 to fight. Oscar is physically incapable of dropping down past 147. Oscar is the shot-caller but is out of options. Oscar calls Pacquiao out for a fight at 147 (only viable option left for Oscar to make loads of cash).

Not hard to grasp the real reason they fought. MONEY. Oscar would have taken fights at 154 til the day he retired if he could've made the same money there. As per another person on this board "147 is where the money was." Couldn't be more true.

What you're saying now has some merit but it's kinda contradictory from your first post where you listed Oscar alongside Cotto and Margarito in instances where Pacquiao has enforced catchweights. In reality, the situations were far different. I think you get that now though.

[bigsmoothh]

I have no problem with fighters agreeing on a catchweight...it is how a fight between a big and a small man happen.

Of course you don't, would be crazy If you did.............

[The Gambler1981]

The more things change, the more they stay the same. I could have predicted just about what everyone said here.

This shit is boxing, the more well known guy always gets over on the lesser known guy. Who knows if the 2 pounds will matter, it likely won't help Canelo (unless the off chance that Canelo slacks in the gym and this makes him focus thus comes in in superior shape than average) but it could mean everything or nothing at all. If Canelo looks broke on the fight night then people should say that and give credit accordingly~ but who knows just because he gets beat even badly it may not boil down to just the 2 pounds.

I will say this though a lot of it is a mental thing, if Canelo is just talking then it could mean nothing in that regard but if he says it enough that he actually starts seeping into his thoughts then he has real problems even if physically it does nothing. That is also boxing if a guy can't overcome a bit of adversity to reach the top, you have to overcome and adapt to the challenges at hand to be the best or else a guy will always just be very good~

[mannyfresh209]

What you're saying now has some merit but it's kinda contradictory from your first post where you listed Oscar alongside Cotto and Margarito in instances where Pacquiao has enforced catchweights. In reality, the situations were far different. I think you get that now though.

I never said Pacquiao was enforcing these rules. My initial response was to someone who said Floyd is worse than Pacquiao at taking fights at catchweights. I just simply pointed out that Pacquiao fought 3 consecutive fights against fighters that were out of their primary weight classes. Like I said the way that all came about is null, the end result is the same. I don't blame Pacquiao for taking the Oscar fight one bit. Oscar wanted it, Oscar got it. I just made the point that Pacquiao being Pacquiao (inability to go higher than 147, being a good PPV draw for Oscar to pair with, etc) really never gave Oscar much of a different option once he was slated as the next opponent. So yes, we're on the same page lol

[Chuckguy]

First off Floyd didnt force Canelo to do anything. Canelo could have easily said no and gone off to fight someone else. But Canelo wants his shot at that payday so you gotta pay the price.
That being said I totally disagree with the catchweight and think its a sucka move by Floyd. I bet he wouldnt ask Kirkland or Angulo for a catch weight just like he didnt ask Cotto for one either.
CW or not Canelo still loses. Great paycheck for him and great learning experience for him as well

[Chuckguy]

and floyd will not fight.

Then Floyd would get shi tted on moire because he didnt even try to make the144 CW with JMM and he just paid him extra to keep the fight.
Canelo should do it no way this fight isnt made he would probably have to pay 1mili of his purse that will probably be around 8-10mili

[mannyfresh209]

Then Floyd would get shi tted on moire because he didnt even try to make the144 CW with JMM and he just paid him extra to keep the fight.
Canelo should do it no way this fight isnt made he would probably have to pay 1mili of his purse that will probably be around 8-10mili

Haha 2 wrongs don't make a right!! Although Floyd would get MORE credit from people if Canelo went that route, and Floyd still came out victorious. But, I don't think Canelo is thinking about doing that. He realizes that this could open the door for him to possibly get a rematch with Floyd down the road. If the fight does ridiculous #'s, chances are Floyd might be open to it again, especially if he wins convincingly. If the fight does ridiculous #'s and Floyd loses, there's still a decent chance they rematch for all the marbles. I don't think Canelo would be wise to spit in Floyd's face like that, given how Floyd's giving Canelo an opportunity of a lifetime.