Marquez beating Pacquiao was the best thing that happened to lil' Floyd

[shade darkar]

ohh so when floyd does it you call him on it yet when manny does it you justify it. thats not cool shade. thats a double standard - and illustrates the point I made before.

yeah i do call him on it because he FAILED to make weight. last i checked pacman didnt fail a drug test.

[Jack Napier]

by the time he got KO'd, Pac was too far gone to beat Floyd
that was Floyd's whole point, but he waited too long
Floyd was absolutely never gonna fight Pac anyway
he'd never stop coming up with more excuses to duck Pac
after Pac-Shane or Pac-JMM 3, Floyd shoulda been dying to fight
when even that didn't entice him, Floyd's cunt showed bright and pink

[The Big Dunn]

yeah i do call him on it because he FAILED to make weight. last i checked pacman didnt fail a drug test.

but you posted that manny fought all his fights previously with the same rules-which clearly this rule indicates he didn't-so just be careful while riding the high horse.

I got it floyd comes in at 146 for 144 and that makes it ok for $10 mil per lb above 147 clause. cool.

[The Big Dunn]

yeah i do call him on it because he FAILED to make weight. last i checked pacman didnt fail a drug test.

Imma be real for a minute. You and I get into these pointless debates too much. I may not agree with you but I respect you as a poster because you usually make saient points and stick to your guns.

But you have to see that posting what you did about rule changes was factually incorrect. I'm cool if in the end you blame floyd. He could've done more to make the fight happen after 2009.

but the ped test was no big deal and manny and his team made it more than it was. Manny refused out of personal pride and floyd wouldn't budge out of personal pride. I dont see how reasonable posters cant agree with that.

[waxfondler]

c'mon son... overwhelming public opinion is floyd ducked pac. PERIOD.... its not a discussion of who is better. bottomline, fight WOULDVE happened if it WERENT for frantic accusations and bad blood that followed. at the time, pac was in the power position... why would he entertain allegations & stipulations??? instead of the floyd camp saying, "pac is a great champion, but we are about to PROVE he is nothing".... they said, "what pac is doing is unnatural... but, uh, he aint special... easy work... uh... but... we want to clean up the sport... how can he demolish and walk through these fighters??... but, he aint nothing... floyd KOs the midget... uh....but...eggrolls...catchweight...a-side meth..."

pac basically walked away from the whole situation since arum had easy money fights lined up anyway.... so we got the "scared of needles... i, uh, dont know what a steroid is... um... 14 days cut-off.... um... 4 days cut-off...i...uh...um.....we dont need floyd"... so off he went buying his "8th" division title.

sadly for pac, a cherrypick money fight that NOBODY wanted resulted in him getting KTFO... lesson learned i guess...

floyd let a mexican do his dirty work... now floyd can sit back and say it wouldve been "easy work" without people calling him out on it.... floyd & pac missed out on a possible history making payday... on some BULL****.

pac/floyd COULDVE had potential to be a great "ali/frazier" type of rivalry...

[The Big Dunn]

c'mon son... overwhelming public opinion is floyd ducked pac. PERIOD.... its not a discussion of who is better. bottomline, fight WOULDVE happened if it WERENT for frantic accusations and bad blood that followed. at the time, pac was in the power position... why would he entertain allegations & stipulations??? instead of the floyd camp saying, "pac is a great champion, but we are about to PROVE he is nothing".... they said, "what pac is doing is unnatural... but, uh, he aint special... easy work... uh... but... we want to clean up the sport... how can he demolish and walk through these fighters??... but, he aint nothing... floyd KOs the midget... uh....but...eggrolls...catchweight...a-side meth..."

pac basically walked away from the whole situation since arum had easy money fights lined up anyway.... so we got the "scared of needles... i, uh, dont know what a steroid is... um... 14 days cut-off.... um... 4 days cut-off...i...uh...um.....we dont need floyd"... so off he went buying his "8th" division title.

sadly for pac, a cherrypick money fight that NOBODY wanted resulted in him getting KTFO... lesson learned i guess...

floyd let a mexican do his dirty work... now floyd can sit back and say it wouldve been "easy work" without people calling him out on it.... floyd & pac missed out on a possible history making payday... on some BULL****.

pac/floyd COULDVE had potential to be a great "ali/frazier" type of rivalry...

public opinion and the truth are not the same thing.

[waxfondler]

public opinion and the truth are not the same thing.

indeed.... but OPINIONS turned into fact regarding drug allegations right??? where was your truth then????

[The Big Dunn]

indeed.... but OPINIONS turned into fact regarding drug allegations right??? where was your truth then????

what are you refering to? manny beiing clean or floyd allegedly testing positive?

[waxfondler]

@ Big Dunn

in the end, if proof eventually surfaces of pac & PEDs... pac will burn. you guys will shriek in ecstasy... and all is right in the world.

until then, pac sat through a lot of grief for something he had no history of... accusations even went to a racial level, claiming foreign sources of drug abuse. floyd even pulled the "foreigner" card on pac. LOL. and dont forget the racially insensitive rants & resume bashing.

ultimately, peterson & berto got busted of PEDs.... an african american & a haitian american.... no foreigners, just some good 'ole homebrew americans.

and a bunch of cubans in miami. LOL

[waxfondler]

what are you refering to? manny beiing clean or floyd allegedly testing positive?

i guess both... i didnt make a big deal of both instances. just trying to prove a point.