Clip: Manny KO's Eric Morales

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  • masterdirector
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    #61
    Did Pacquiao debut at Strawweight or Jr. Flyweight? What'd they consider it? I know he was either 105 or 106. If it was Strawweight, which close enough, that'd mean he is 7 weight classes from where he started rather than 6.

    I really don't think Pac should travel above 130. There are plenty of people right at 130 and 126 for him to fight:

    Barrera 2
    Morales 3
    JMM 2
    Nagy
    Yodsanan 3-K Battery (the good one from that gym)
    Mosquera
    Arthur
    Barrios
    Enoki
    Harrison
    Chi
    Rocky Juarez
    Guzman
    Tim Austin
    Litzau (LOL)
    And of course Zahir Raheem

    That's about 15-16 good people for Pacquiao to fight. No need to move up to 135. Heck, in a year or so Rafael Marquez might move up to 126.

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    • Parody
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      #62
      Originally posted by E=MC2
      I disagree. If Marquez was more careful in round 1, he would have beaten Pacman by a landslide. If you take round 1 away, the result is an easy win for Marques.

      If they fight again, JMM will soundly defeat Pacman.
      In the Marquez fight the judges scored the 1st Round 10-7 in favour on Pacman when it should have been 10-6 because of the 2 Knockdowns, Hell it should have been a 1st Round win by TKO for Pacman for knocking out Marquez 3 times in the 1st round

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      • Bonsi
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        #63
        Originally posted by Bozo_no no
        Here's the clip from round 2, which really could have been called a knock down:



        Without grabbing the rope, Eric would have gone down.
        Nice Clip!
        seems like Morales was expecting a straight left following a right jab. SURPRISE!! right cross baby!! karma for u.

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        • Bonsi
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          #64
          Originally posted by turboflat4
          Nice Clip!
          seems like Morales was expecting a straight left following a right jab. SURPRISE!! right cross baby!! karma for u.

          I meant LEFT cross...lol!

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          • E=MC2
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            #65
            Originally posted by Bozo_no no
            He said he wasn't aware he could have scored it 10-6, and if he'd known, would have.

            Which for the 4th time, means Marquez was lucky to escape that fight with a "D".

            Now please, stop spamming.

            You point is, if the judge had scored the first round 10:6, Pacman would have won. Therefore, Marquez was lucky to escape that fight with a "D".


            My point is, if JMM had been just a little more careful in round 1, he would have won the fight easily. Therefore, Pacman was lucky to escape that fight with a "D".

            So we have two "ifs": yours and mine. I do not see why your "if" is better than my "if", or vice versa, for that matter.
            Last edited by E=MC2; 01-22-2006, 12:07 PM.

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            • packyeow
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              #66
              e=mc2 is blind/deaf etc

              Originally posted by E=MC2
              So can JMM, don't you think?
              Pacquiao is da man RIGHT NOW and for the next 3 years! JMM couldnt even get a high enough paycheck to fight pacquiao and he used that to avoid a date with manny in the first fight. And currently, promoters will not pay him anymore money than what they gave him in the first. He may have "outboxed" pacquiao later on but he clearly lost the fight on points. Manny & Freddie Roach will make the adjustments to make this a future no-brainer win for Manny. So i dont see this fight happening in the near future. As for Barreira? I cannot see any change in the result from the first fight!!! How can he make any adjustment as he was TOTALLY OUTCLASSED in the first. There is such a thing as CONTRA-FELLOW (as we say) -- meaning Barrera's style and skills are just so compatible and therefore easy pickings for Manny. In other words, MANNY HAS GOT BARRERA'S NUMBER RIGHT NOW and forever and nothing can change that in the next 3 years (except an injury).

              EMC=2 quit talking about that fluke draw! What matters NOW is "WHO'S DA MAN!" and MANNY is the MAN!

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              • E=MC2
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                #67
                Originally posted by packyeow
                Pacquiao is da man RIGHT NOW and for the next 3 years! JMM couldnt even get a high enough paycheck to fight pacquiao and he used that to avoid a date with manny in the first fight. And currently, promoters will not pay him anymore money than what they gave him in the first. He may have "outboxed" pacquiao later on but he clearly lost the fight on points. Manny & Freddie Roach will make the adjustments to make this a future no-brainer win for Manny. So i dont see this fight happening in the near future. As for Barreira? I cannot see any change in the result from the first fight!!! How can he make any adjustment as he was TOTALLY OUTCLASSED in the first. There is such a thing as CONTRA-FELLOW (as we say) -- meaning Barrera's style and skills are just so compatible and therefore easy pickings for Manny. In other words, MANNY HAS GOT BARRERA'S NUMBER RIGHT NOW and forever and nothing can change that in the next 3 years (except an injury).

                EMC=2 quit talking about that fluke draw! What matters NOW is "WHO'S DA MAN!" and MANNY is the MAN!

                Pacman is the best overall, though I think there is a sound chance that he can loose the remath with JMM. He was thoroughly outclassed by JMM in terms of boxing skills the first time. I do not think it would be very different the second time.

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                • JMCbulls
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Manny_P
                  I agree man. Pac will ****in rule now. I see nobody in the right divisions that can beat him. Just a ****in BEAST!
                  agreed. pac officialy cant b touched at his weight class

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                  • Bozo_no no
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by E=MC2
                    You point is, if the judge had scored the first round 10:6, Pacman would have won. Therefore, Marquez was lucky to escape that fight with a "D".


                    My point is, if JMM had been just a little more careful in round 1, he would have won the fight easily. Therefore, Pacman was lucky to escape that fight with a "D".

                    So we have two "ifs": yours and mine. I do not see why your "if" is better than my "if", or vice versa, for that matter.

                    It's quite simple, and shows why your point has no logic and stems from desperation.

                    The judge making an error on his score card had nothing to do with changing what happened in the fight.

                    Your only point consists of an "If" something different happned in the fight.

                    With what happened in the fight itself, Manny was robbed of a win by an error on a judges score card.

                    Your logic is weak, and stems from having a desperate agending wishing very badly that the fight had not played out the way it did.

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                    • E=MC2
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Bozo_no no
                      It's quite simple, and shows why your point has no logic and stems from desperation.

                      Your logic is weak, and stems from having a desperate agending wishing very badly that the fight had not played out the way it did.
                      You have to prove your points. Repeating your assertions without proof does not consitute a valid argument.

                      Plus, now you are trying to make it personal, which is always a weapon of last resort for a weak mind.

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