Froch: "Cleverly is totally insignificant"

[Weebler I]

George Groves would probably be a better payday lol. Also, it can't be denied that George Groves' best win is probably better than Cleverley's.

Who is Groves's best win? retired Johnson? DeGale?

Maybe they're better wins than Cleverly's equivalent wins at 175 but in the ring do you think Groves beats Cleverly?

I dislike the way Hearn is trying to push Groves-Froch on the public and I think he's over-estimating the interest in an immediate Froch-Kessler rematch.

I don't think anyone really wants to see either. Andre Ward is the fight but it seems like Froch is maybe just trying to force his hand.

Ward is probably the fight but I don't want to see it either tbh. Saw it already and Froch lost handily, I don't see a rematch being much different regardless of where it is held.

I'm probably on my own in this but I'd prefer to watch Cleverly, Stieglitz, Oosthuizen and even Hopkins ahead of the "rematches" and I'd rather the DeGale fight over Groves, just my own preference though.

[stefl14]

Who is Groves's best win? retired Johnson? DeGale?

Maybe they're better wins than Cleverly's equivalent wins at 175 but in the ring do you think Groves beats Cleverly?

I dislike the way Hearn is trying to push Groves-Froch on the public and I think he's over-estimating the interest in an immediate Froch-Kessler rematch.



Ward is probably the fight but I don't want to see it either tbh. Saw it already and Froch lost handily, I don't see a rematch being much different regardless of where it is held.

I'm probably on my own in this but I'd prefer to watch Cleverly, Stieglitz, Oosthuizen and even Hopkins ahead of the "rematches" and I'd rather the DeGale fight over Groves, just my own preference though.

I'm not necessarily saying Groves beats him head to head but it's not like he's a complete bum. In my view Degale and maybe even Johnson are better than any of Cleverley's opponents thus far, unless you count Bellew as some world beater.

[Arsene Knows]

Your club is also insignificant. It is just a mother****ing feeder club like it or not. If you don't know anything about even the championship you don't know **** about football sorry. I likely know more about football and I definitely know more about boxing.

The awkward moment when a supporter of a team in the Championship tries to say a team in the Champions League is insignificant.....

[stefl14]

The awkward moment when a supporter of a team in the Championship tries to say a team in the Champions League is insignificant.....

We are a big fish in a small pool you are a small fish in a big pool. Arsenal shout so much about being in the Champions League but over the years all you've done is regressed and you will never ever win the Champions League. Every year we hear "this year Arsenal will challenge for the title all we need is to buy X, Y and Z and we've got a title challenging squad". What actually happens is you sell your best players and buy mediocre players. By mid-season you are in the scrap for top 4 again. Top 4 is like a ****ing title now for Arsenal lol. You underpay top players and overpay **** players. I don't think Arsenal will ever be a top club again. Say what you want about Leicester but our supporters are true supporters mostly. At an Arsenal ground you find so many people who aren't true supporters it's ridiculous.

[El Vikingo]

Get a Room You two.

[Arsene Knows]

We are a big fish in a small pool you are a small fish in a big pool. Arsenal shout so much about being in the Champions League but over the years all you've done is regressed and you will never ever win the Champions League. Every year we hear "this year Arsenal will challenge for the title all we need is to buy X, Y and Z and we've got a title challenging squad". What actually happens is you sell your best players and buy mediocre players. By mid-season you are in the scrap for top 4 again. Top 4 is like a ****ing title now for Arsenal lol. You underpay top players and overpay **** players. I don't think Arsenal will ever be a top club again. Say what you want about Leicester but our supporters are true supporters mostly. At an Arsenal ground you find so many people who aren't true supporters it's ridiculous.

Well Arsenal built a new stadium and managed the debt for 8 years whilst staying in the top 4 in the Premier League.

Leicester City built a new stadium and.....oh.....oh no.....

[FeFist]

I'm going to come out and say it. Froch is a bit of a cunt, and if anyone else said what he's being saying of late they'd be lambasted for it. He's riding off his limited success in the Super Middleweight tournament, and his previous underdog status, too much.

[stefl14]

Well Arsenal built a new stadium and managed the debt for 8 years whilst staying in the top 4 in the Premier League.

Leicester City built a new stadium and.....oh.....oh no.....

Well at least we've got realistic aspirations such as being promoted. Arsenal are a perpetual top 4 team at best. They may even fall out of that if they're not careful.

[BattlingNelson]

Some day Froch will come down hard.

[Weebler I]

I'm not necessarily saying Groves beats him head to head but it's not like he's a complete bum. In my view Degale and maybe even Johnson are better than any of Cleverley's opponents thus far, unless you count Bellew as some world beater.

Okay, but who do you feel is the tougher opponent (in the ring) for Froch?

I see him cutting through Groves, and while he likely beats Cleverly I think it's the tougher assignment of the two.