Froch: "Cleverly is totally insignificant"

[EvilGenius]

This dude needs a reality check...
I cannot put in to words on how over rated this guy is.

[yoz]

The deal is actually very appealing. Froch gets to fight for the LHW title at a catchweight and even if he loses, he stays Super Middleweight champion. Plus its great money. I'd rather see Froch-Cleverly than a third Kessler fight.

Brown-nosing Frank Warren again, eh, Dirk?

[Bodyshot3]

Personally, I'd like to see the fight.

Both guys don't mess about in the ring and I am also probably the only bloke (apart from Frank Warren) who actually thinks that what Cleverly is missing is a proper opportunity to deliver a breakthrough performance and the reason the kid is looking distinctly average is because he's in tickover fights.

Carl clearly feels differently right now...so I am guessing it is Kessler, Ward or making a ton of cash against B-Hop.

[Arsene Knows]

A Cleverley fight isn't top of my wishlist for Froch's next opponent, but i'm not sure why Froch is so against it, and it's not completely insignificant.

He's an option that provides a beatable man at 168 or 175 for Froch, who holds a title, and domestically is the biggest fight for Carl's legacy (titles in 2 divisions) in comparision to what Groves (being touted) or Degale would bring.

There's no doubt that Warren is a big hinderence for a Froch/Cleverley bout to ever come off.

The deal is actually very appealing. Froch gets to fight for the LHW title at a catchweight and even if he loses, he stays Super Middleweight champion. Plus its great money. I'd rather see Froch-Cleverly than a third Kessler fight.

[AntonTheMeh]

froch's name in a past life.

[black.ink]

A Cleverley fight isn't top of my wishlist for Froch's next opponent, but i'm not sure why Froch is so against it, and it's not completely insignificant.

He's an option that provides a beatable man at 168 or 175 for Froch, who holds a title, and domestically is the biggest fight for Carl's legacy (titles in 2 divisions) in comparision to what Groves (being touted) or Degale would bring.

There's no doubt that Warren is a big hinderence for a Froch/Cleverley bout to ever come off.

[LacedUp]

Well at least we've got realistic aspirations such as being promoted. Arsenal are a perpetual top 4 team at best. They may even fall out of that if they're not careful.

Well Arsenal built a new stadium and managed the debt for 8 years whilst staying in the top 4 in the Premier League.

Leicester City built a new stadium and.....oh.....oh no.....

Take it to a football thread guys.

YNWA

[Weebler I]

£2.5m is not a small offer. How much do you think Froch gets paid?

It was an edit gone wrong, I had intended to put "no small offer". I agree it's a sizeable offer.

[Arsene Knows]

He isn't expected to move up, Cleverly offered to fight him at 168. As to financials £2.5m is small offer, but afaik Matchroom rejected it in 20 minutes, I doubt they even consulted Froch in that time.

I have no great desire to see Froch-Cleverly but I'd prefer it to Groves and some of the other fights mentioned.

£2.5m is not a small offer. How much do you think Froch gets paid?

[Weebler I]

I agree. But why should Froch be expected to move up? Froch isn't big he only rehydrates to around 175 at most. Even if Cleverley is the tougher assignment, there are still better opponents for Froch that would also be a lot more lucrative financially. Froch is coming to his twilight years and unfortunately hasn't been noticed for most of his career so he needs to cash out for the future imo.

He isn't expected to move up, Cleverly offered to fight him at 168. As to financials £2.5m is no small offer, but afaik Matchroom rejected it in 20 minutes, I doubt they even consulted Froch in that time.

I have no great desire to see Froch-Cleverly but I'd prefer it to Groves and some of the other fights mentioned.