When was the last time Mayweather faced a legitimate Threat?

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  • Sugar Adam Ali
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    #71
    I think for the most part- floyd has fought top-level guys.... But he gets alot of heat for the timing of his fights....

    Since the Oscar fight in may 2007, Floyd has been the money man in boxing and can make any fight he wants to. Much like oscar, tyson, SRL, ali, etc....
    When you are the biggest money prizefighter in the game, there are no excuses, especially when you do your own promoting......

    The lack of truely meaningful fights since the oscar win is what hurts floyd's legacy the most...
    The B.s. retirements only to come back in the to fight hatton at a weight where hatton pretty much is 0-3...
    Then sitting out the whole 2008 when Margs and Cotto and Oscar rematch all loomed for floyd.....
    I do give him credit for coming off a 1 1/2 year layoff and fighting the reigning lw champ marquez and reigning ww champ Shane.... and only losing maybe 2 rounds...

    But then sitting out again...

    It is obvious that Floyd didnt want to fight-Margs, cotto, oscar, manny....
    Those would have all been huge career paydays, and for a guy that claims to be about the money, how can you turn down that much $$$$$$$$$$$$

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    • DeadLikeMe
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      #72
      The funny thing is imatroll isn't even a troll, just a run of the mill pactard. After his reason for watching boxing got KTFO, he was on here with massive butthurt ready to join the PED crusade

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      • MurkaMan
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        #73
        Originally posted by Imatroll
        If Floyd beats Canelo, I'll give Floyd 100% credit. No excuses.

        Again some people got the wrong idea, I'm actually praising Floyd for taking on Canelo. The first non-cherry pick fight in a very long time. G**** Floyd.
        Your duckin and dodgin mea'!!!

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        • Imatroll
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          #74
          Originally posted by MurkaMan
          I was actually VERY impressed with Floyd's choice of opposition lately! I feel that Oscar was a money fight. He was past his prime, but it was a fight that had to happen for Floyd. I think Hatton was a decent opponent as well. Now after we had seen Floyd pick brawlers apart, allot of us thought he needed a counterpuncher to beat him. JMM was the best in the bidness and Floyd make him look foolish.

          I dont care about the weight issue. Floyd beat him so bad, it gave me the impression that no matter what weight, Floyd was just WAAAY too sharp defensively.

          At the time he fought Mosley, it was a GREAT opponent for Floyd. It was THE first time Floyd fought a dangerous ww, who was bigger, and had some speed and some pop. Also even tho Shane was older, he was coming off a GREAT KO win, and Floyd himself was coming off a 2 yr layoff before he fought JMM, and coming off another layoff before he fought Shane. BOTH were older.

          After seeing Shane land a shot, I felt that SURELY Ortiz would do MUCH better than Shane. Ortiz is waaay bigger, throws more puunches, is a southpaw so he had a better shot of landing. He came in the ring at 164lbs, and Floyd pushed him around the ring.

          I was pleased with that opponent at the time. Cotto was the best opposition for Floyd at the time he fought him, but Cotto was shot, and been through wars. I think Cotto was the only guy who had really been ****** up before Floyd fought him.

          But based on what he did to Floyd, I thought SURELY Floyd would lose to Ghost. Cotto is short, slow, with short arms. Ghost is tall, long, with MUCH faster hands than Cotto. Ghost doesnt throw combinations, he throws flurries. Flurries are punches that are much closer together, than combination punches. So its easy for you to get clipped. And Ghost is not a brawler like Ortiz. He's a tactical counterpuncher who only started brawling when he went to ww, and became bigger, and more durable. He also makes GREAT adjustments on the fly. If Cotto was able to outbox Floyd in some sequences, I thought SURELY that Ghost was going to use his jab to keep Floyd at bay.
          I felt that if you customized a fighter to beat Floyd, he would be taller, bigger, can swarm, can box, use height and reach advantage, and was a volume puncher. Ghost's style was built to beat Floyd.

          I felt that the only way Floyd would beat him is to use footwork, and he was older and didnt have any footwork. Boy was I wrong.

          I feel that Floyd has ducked a few fighters. But I have NEVER felt that he only fought tomato cans. He fights some GREAT opponents, and I always feel, based off his last fight before, he would lose to guys he was fighting at the moment!

          Sorry I have ruined your troll attempt! I know my boxing.
          1. JMM weight issue was a big factor. Though Floyd still beats him, cheating him on the scales to gain an advantage fight night is classless.

          2. Mosley was completely shot going into the fight. He had gone through 2x training camps and had a long layoff. I predicted easy fight for Mayweather UD.

          3. What long layoff was Floyd coming off of when fighting Shane? He just fought JMM in September.

          3. Ortiz has the mentality of a mouse.

          4. Again, 99.9% of the boxing community said Ghost had no chance against Floyd. Look at the Aydin fight, Robert struggled against a guy who throws 1-2 punch combos and covers up half the fight. Also Aydin has zero movement at all. He was hurt against a few body shots. Ghost is slow, lacks power, defense is poor and **** accuracy fighter while throwing those "volume" punches, you should've of never predicted a Ghost victory. What were you thinking?

          Again these are just my opinions of his recent fights, I'm just trying to point out Canelo is Floyd's sole legitimate fight in a VERY long time.

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            #75
            Originally posted by Imatroll
            1. JMM weight issue was a big factor. Though Floyd still beats him, cheating him on the scales to gain an advantage fight night is classless.

            2. Mosley was completely shot going into the fight. He had gone through 2x training camps and had a long layoff. I predicted easy fight for Mayweather UD.

            3. What long layoff was Floyd coming off of when fighting Shane? He just fought JMM in September.

            3. Ortiz has the mentality of a mouse.

            4. Again, 99.9% of the boxing community said Ghost had no chance against Floyd. Look at the Aydin fight, Robert struggled against a guy who throws 1-2 punch combos and covers up half the fight. Also Aydin has zero movement at all. He was hurt against a few body shots. Ghost is slow, lacks power, defense is poor and **** accuracy fighter while throwing those "volume" punches, you should've of never predicted a Ghost victory. What were you thinking?

            Again these are just my opinions of his recent fights, I'm just trying to point out Canelo is Floyd's sole legitimate fight in a VERY long time.
            till he wins then canelo will be "green" and "cherry pick" and not a threat.

            I think canelo is going to win by KO but just pointing out the facts.

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            • Imatroll
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              #76
              Originally posted by Fetta
              till he wins then canelo will be "green" and "cherry pick" and not a threat.

              I think canelo is going to win by KO but just pointing out the facts.
              I've already stated If Floyd wins, he gets full credit.

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              • Fetta
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                #77
                Originally posted by Imatroll
                I've already stated If Floyd wins, he gets full credit.
                Was speaking in general. You dont really think your the only floyd hater, do you

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                • Imatroll
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Fetta
                  Was speaking in general. You dont really think your the only floyd hater, do you
                  Not a Floyd Hater. I dislike Cherry picking in general, as do rest of the boxing community with the exception of Floyd Nationalist.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma
                    Again people are oblivious to the fact that they're criticizing Mayweather for his talents. You could have had Pacquiao face Mayweather's recent line up of opponents, in fact it could have been any random mix in the WW division and all of that would have been considered good fights.

                    For you and the TS to make those comments, it means you put Mayweather at a much higher pedestal than the fans do, and it's insane how many don't even realize that. Which is why I said Mayweather was overrated in all actuality. If facing top ranked opponents within your division is cherry picking, then Mayweather is overrated.
                    /\/\TRUTH/\/\

                    What he did to that guy (JMM, still top 5 p4p) who knocked out the Floyd Haters biggest heart throb (pacquiouch) after taking over a year off......

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                    • T18Z
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by RawDawgHasSpokn
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                      What he did to that guy (JMM, still top 5 p4p) who knocked out the Floyd Haters biggest heart throb (pacquiouch) after taking over a year off......
                      You mean making Marquez come from 135 to 143? And then coming in overweight even more so in the weigh in?

                      Yeah, real good win by Mayweather... not.

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