Comments Thread For: Froch: Ward Brings Little Revenue, Kessler III is Priority

[Arsene Knows]

34 yr olds with wear and tear on their body aren't worried about protecting their career. They take whatever they can get because they only have a few yrs left at the top.

Froch is a young 34. A couple of sellout fights against bums in Nottingham would have earned him a decent crust and then he could have seen who were the champions when he was 35.

Instead of going straight for the undefeated and most dangerous champion in the division after a gruelling Super Six schedule.

[hitking]

So this isn't ducking? How does Froch get a pass for putting A REMATCH AGAINST A GUY HE JUST BEAT over a rematch against SOMEONE THAT BEAT HIM. He should be ridiculed for his position, but of course plenty of users here have their own agenda.

I hear ya bro. Some fighters are ridiculed to the point of obsession for fights not coming together against guys who the majority feel they'll beat. Froch is coming out with one excuse after another for not fighting a guy we know he can't beat, yet he's defended. Sounds like a double standard to me.

[MDPopescu]

I hear ya bro. Some fighters are ridiculed to the point of obsession for fights not coming together against guys who the majority feel they'll beat. Froch is coming out with one excuse after another for not fighting a guy we know he can't beat, yet he's defended. Sounds like a double standard to me.

Froch would fight Ward tomorrow (Hearn let alone).

[The Big Dunn]

Sometimes one should also follow the business in this sport...
Who and where should Ward fight in order to earn a decent living from boxing?

Wlad's case is different. I understand why he fights rematches, same with Bhop when he was MW king. This case both have other options and the 1st fight was clear.

[Weebler I]

I will repeat as many times as necessary: Ward WANTS to travel to the UK, but he's asking for too much money (in Hearn's opinion)...

I doubt whether Hearn knows what Ward is asking for, principally because he has likely never asked. Eddie and Kalle want Kessler III.

[hitking]

Froch would fight Ward tomorrow (Hearn let alone).

And the fact that you believe that is why Froch will be able to duck the fight and receive no flack for it.

[Arsene Knows]

So this isn't ducking? How does Froch get a pass for putting A REMATCH AGAINST A GUY HE JUST BEAT over a rematch against SOMEONE THAT BEAT HIM. He should be ridiculed for his position, but of course plenty of users here have their own agenda.

Gotta read between the lines.

Froch could quite easily be saying "Kessler is the main priority" to force Ward's hand. Make Ward hurry up and decide if he wants the fight.

I'm pretty sure Eddie Hearn doesn't really want this fight though because Froch is his top earner. But he didn't want Froch to fight Bute either.

[BattlingNelson]

And all I'm saying is that the ranking you're basing your argument on is a mere opinion. And fact is, its an opinion that's in the minority and doesn't reflect how that era of boxing will be viewed by the majority.

Not my opinion though. It's the opinion of the leading independent boxingrankings and there's very Little basis for arguing that Calzaghe should be ranked above Ottke in those yearly rankings.

BTW, speaking of Ring magazine pre-Oscar. When they put in their championship policy back in 2002, they recognized 4 champions immediately. Lennox Lewis, Roy Jones, Bernard Hopkins, and Kostya Tsyzu. Although I liked their policy and still do despite changes, IMO they lost a lil credibility even then recognizing RJ as light heavy champ when Darius Mickelcheski was the lineal champ. Which again points to the ratings simply being a couple guys' opinions, not anything concrete or official like you're making them out to be.

I'm totally in agreement about the terrible mistake they made by making Jones champion. That was a brainfart clearly made to please the American buyers who wanted Jones as champ instead of someone they'd never heard of. But saying that their rankings are trash because of a single mistake is reaching.

[BattlingNelson]

Kessler is with Sauerland. I don't know who promotes Stieglitz but they seem to have a good relationship with Sauerland.

He is with SES. A rival promotor.

You said he could have had a big domestic fight instead of fighting Bute. Against whom? Groves?

I don't think Groves was ready at that time. I was think more along the lines of someone like Robin Reid WHO had a sellable name.

He said he doesn't wanna rematch Ward because he brings little revenue. That doesn't fit with the picture of Froch you're trying to paint.

I see. Point taken, even though a Kessler fight is hardly a pushover and a foregone conclusion.

[hitking]

Not my opinion though. It's the opinion of the leading independent boxingrankings and there's very Little basis for arguing that Calzaghe should be ranked above Ottke in those yearly rankings.

I'm totally in agreement about the terrible mistake they made by making Jones champion. That was a brainfart clearly made to please the American buyers who wanted Jones as champ instead of someone they'd never heard of. But saying that their rankings are trash because of a single mistake is reaching.

Oh I didn't say their ratings are trash. And as I've said several times, their ratings are the ones I choose to follow in my own lil boxing universe. That said, I feel like I'm far to knowledgeable as a fight fan to let Ring magazine, or any website or publication, totally dictate to me how I view the sport.