The difference between fighters who can come back from a loss and those that can't

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  • Syf
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    #11
    Originally posted by 110110110
    Maidana is also has that something.

    The Ortiz fight was incredible, he got knocked down 3 times and ended up making ortiz quit!!!, that says alot.

    He also got knocked down by a perfect bodypunch by kahn that would have ended 99.9 % of fights, he got up and yet clearly affected by the punch he whent on to neraly knocking out kahn.

    That is someone you would like to have by your side going into war.
    yes green. he has also lost to Khan and Devon but is now having a career resurgence. Because his career is a lot like his fights. Even if he's down, he can come back. And that's what he's doing.

    It takes a certain mental fortitude to come back as strong or stronger after a loss. Its an "intangible" as they call it. I think, in Maidana's case, his will was never broken, in any of his fights. If a fighter has their will broken in a loss, that must be the thing that is most difficult to recover from.

    But then, that brings into question how easily a fighter's will is broken....

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    • Mr Ehrmantraut
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      #12
      Top of the scale Lennox Lewis, bottom of the scale Naseem Hamed.

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      • angelrod750
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        #13
        Originally posted by MANIAC310
        guys like

        Pacquiao and Marquez who lost in the 90's had no problem coming back because they're ATG's. But guys like Cotto will never be able to handle a defeat because they're not at that level. Infact no where near it.. mentally, physically, technically etc
        Wow, you REALLY hate Cotto. Yet you idolize a known, prove cheater.
        I don't know you but i must state this: ever since he was caught attempting to cheat, Margarito has showed nothing to prove he is a boxer of championship quality.
        He never won a single round in fact.

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        • dc3383
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          #14
          It's all mental

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          • Prince Mongo
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            #15
            Originally posted by dc3383
            It's all mental
            It is. But what is the REASON why one can bounce back from a defeat and the other is a shadow of their former self?

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            • Mr Ehrmantraut
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              #16
              Originally posted by Prince Mongo
              It is. But what is the REASON why one can bounce back from a defeat and the other is a shadow of their former self?
              Confidence.

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              • Prince Mongo
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                #17
                Originally posted by dc3383
                It's all mental
                Originally posted by Mr Ehrmantraut
                Confidence.
                To a degree. But why is it some guys like Ali can bounce back and are equally or more confident after a loss than someone like Donald Curry who fall to pieces?

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                • Slip Stream
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                  #18
                  I think it boils down to how the fighter ultimately sees himself in relation to his challenge. A loss to some leaves an irreparable blemish on their sense of invulnerability. If a fighter thinks he can be beaten it doesn't matter what their conditioning is or training regiment is, a fighter will fulfill that script one way or another.

                  Boxing is a sport where you have to dedicate your body, mind and soul, so if a fighter can't do that they fail.

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                  • Emon723
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                    #19
                    A perfect example is Glen Johnson, who keeps coming back from heartbreaking losses.

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                    • nj_evoixgsr
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                      #20
                      You guys are making it more complicated than it needs to be. It is the same as why one individual can overcome life's tragedies vs another breaking down. It's mental fortitude and a person's will. The determining factor is based on many variables.

                      Many individuals like Pac or others that have gone from rags to riches. I believe can come back because they have been there before and fought through mental demons before.

                      If Floyd were to lose, his will would not break and could easily bounce back as his talents will carry him through. Unless he gets humiliated, his trust in his defense may deteriorate.

                      Will Donaire falter after being schooled by Rigo? I don't think so. He'll bounce back and better.

                      There are many variables why one boxer may be able to bounce back better than others. I think the main reasons have already been mentioned:

                      A MAN'S WILL POWER
                      CONFIDENCE
                      THE TYPE OF DEFEAT (HUGE KO LOSS, UD, SD, ETC)
                      HIS STORY FROM RAGS TO RICHES
                      **SUPPORT**
                      Last edited by nj_evoixgsr; 06-18-2013, 10:42 AM.

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