Carl Froch has one of the greatest world class resumes ever.

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  • LacedUp
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    #61
    Originally posted by BattlingNelson
    What rankings are you using?

    Huck has 2 wins over Afolabi, 1 over Lebedev, 1 over Arslan = 4

    Wlad has Haye, Thompson, Chambers = 3.

    Froch has 1 win over Kessler, 1 win over Abraham = 2.
    What rankings are you using?! Eddie Chambers = top 15? Come on. He fought twice in three years and lost one of them. - Using that logic, I can take Dirrell out of Froch's wins - but he's still ranked in the top 15 by almost everyone.

    I forgot Arslan for Huck, but Afolabi twice doesn't count 2 wins in the top 15. It counts as one.

    Why forget about Bute/Magee? They are ranked in the top 15 by all pretty much.

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      #62
      Originally posted by toshmurph
      He fought in the Super 6, he was obligated to fight them with the exception of Pascal and Bute.
      Taylor was not part of the Super Six. Taylor was the first defence of his WBC Title and it was before the Super Six. Taylor was his mandatory. The Kessler rematch was also not part of the Super Six.

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        #63
        Originally posted by Japanese Boxing
        Loling because Joey Zags wouldn't be able to slug it out with Froch. It doesn't matter if I feel that Zags is more skilled, his hands would have to hold up and I don't think they could.
        Although I feel Carl's has fought the stiffer competition than Calzaghe... Calzaghe wouldn't slug it out with Froch. He'd outbox him, and quite easliy I'd imagine.

        Froch has already been outboxed soundly by Dirrell (Who should have got the W), a shot Taylor (Before Taylor's chin called it a day!) and Ward (who also ruffed him up on the inside with a broken hand).

        Now if Direll and a out of date Taylor could do it, I'd seriously think Joe Calzaghe could too...

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          #64
          Originally posted by LacedUp
          What rankings are you using?! Eddie Chambers = top 15? Come on. He fought twice in three years and lost one of them. - Using that logic, I can take Dirrell out of Froch's wins - but he's still ranked in the top 15 by almost everyone.
          Having Dirrell in is a joke. Seriously.

          I forgot Arslan for Huck, but Afolabi twice doesn't count 2 wins in the top 15. It counts as one.
          No. You asked about wins. Huck has 2 over Afolabi. Don't change the rules.

          Why forget about Bute/Magee? They are ranked in the top 15 by all pretty much.
          I didn't forget. Bute is LHW and Magee would be a reach for a top 15 slot.

          So it is now clear that Froch does NOT have the most wins over current top 10-15 agreed?

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            #65
            Originally posted by Arsene Knows
            Taylor was not part of the Super Six. Taylor was the first defence of his WBC Title and it was before the Super Six. Taylor was his mandatory. The Kessler rematch was also not part of the Super Six.
            Sorry, you're right about Taylor. He was part of the tournament so I keep thinking it was.. But as far as that goes, that should have been a routine mandatory as Taylor was long past it!

            The Kessler rematch wasn't mentioned in the thread, it finished on Bute, presumably to leave out Yusuf Mack. So I didn't mention it.

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              #66
              Originally posted by BattlingNelson
              What rankings are you using?

              Huck has 2 wins over Afolabi, 1 over Lebedev, 1 over Arslan = 4

              Wlad has Haye, Thompson, Chambers = 3.

              Froch has 1 win over Kessler, 1 win over Abraham = 2.
              I agree, Magee is now ranked 16th.

              You forgot Martinez! Chavez, Murray, Macklin, Barker = 4

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                #67
                Originally posted by BattlingNelson
                Having Dirrell in is a joke. Seriously.

                No. You asked about wins. Huck has 2 over Afolabi. Don't change the rules.


                I didn't forget. Bute is LHW and Magee would be a reach for a top 15 slot.

                So it is now clear that Froch does NOT have the most wins over current top 10-15 agreed?
                That's why I pulled him out - but so is Chambers.
                Bute has fought once at LHW, I rank him as a SMW until he makes up his mind.

                I don't think there's any doubt as to who of the three have fought better opposition.
                Both the CW and the HW are jokes, whereas SMW is serious business.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by CraigM
                  Because a resume is the people you've fought against :/

                  Even if he might lose he still goes up against the best he can.
                  So does Zab Judah but he's lost those big fights.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by LacedUp
                    That's why I pulled him out - but so is Chambers.
                    Bute has fought once at LHW, I rank him as a SMW until he makes up his mind.

                    I don't think there's any doubt as to who of the three have fought better opposition.
                    Both the CW and the HW are jokes, whereas SMW is serious business.
                    the point giver strikes again.

                    long live the points, long live the green!


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                      #70
                      Originally posted by LacedUp
                      That's why I pulled him out - but so is Chambers.
                      Bute has fought once at LHW, I rank him as a SMW until he makes up his mind.
                      I'm not considering Bute a 168er any longer.

                      I don't think there's any doubt as to who of the three have fought better opposition.
                      Both the CW and the HW are jokes, whereas SMW is serious business.
                      Agreed, but that was not the issue.

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