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  • Jam Jars
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    #31
    Originally posted by Hitman932
    You sir are an idiot. What is the point of your denial?

    Where is the proof that Haye's cardio is better? Are you seriously going to bring up the fights with Wlad and Valuev as evidence when he set the all time record for fewest punches thrown in a 12 round fight in one of them and then almost broke his own miserable record in the 2nd one?

    By all accounts Haye threw right around 145 punches in 12 rounds against a slower than molasses and powerless Valuev. An average of 12 punches thrown per round. Pathetic by any measure.

    Vitali Klitschko, by contrast, threw 432 in 6 rounds against a far more devastating opponent in Lennox Lewis.

    Honest? You're full of ****. You aren't being honest. You're inventing your own version of events to further your ass kissing agenda.

    You excuse him blowing air because he threw "a ton" of punches against Derek Chisora.... because he threw an astounding 50 per round!

    Wladimir Klitschko threw 60 per round against Mariusz Wach, did it for 12 rounds, and had more gas left in the tank than Haye did against Chisora.

    He has never proven that his cardio is improved. He has simply changed to a much more boring style where he fights off the back foot and only throws one punch at a time unless he hurts his opponent.

    If someone puts pressure on him and can take what he dishes out Haye will collapse just like he did against Thompson. That's why Haye doesn't fight legit HW opponents and probably why he will weasel his way out of fighting Fury.
    You're comparing jabs with power punches, almost every punch Haye throws is power and almost every punch Wlad throws is a jab. Ask any fighter or anyone that knows anything about fighting and they will all tell you that throwing power punches takes more than twice as much out of you than flicking out jab. Nobody in the division could take flush punches from Haye for long and Tyson Fury has been down against fighters with pillows, by the same punch that is probably Haye's best punch. He fights Haye, he goes to sleep.

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    • yoz
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      #32
      If Haye can't get Fury out of there in 6, I fancy Fury by decision or late KO.

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      • Arsene Knows
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        #33
        Originally posted by LacedUp
        So Chisora didn't take a big punch in the fourth round and started retreating or was that just me seeing this? Pretty sure the commentators were yelling at Chisora also. Premature stoppage... That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. He'd been down twice in a minute and had just taken a massive 5 punch combo. He was shook on his feet and nobody complained about the stoppage. In fact, Don Charles was ready to throw in the towel.

        But do enlighten me please.. At what stage in the fight did Chisora have Haye in trouble?
        He was up and could have continued. It was almost the end of the round. Chisora himself said it was an early stoppage.

        I didn't say he had him in trouble. He caught Haye with a nice left hook on the bell at the end of one of the rounds and it definitely bothered Haye. It would have been interesting to see what would have happened had the referee not prematurely ended the fight. Would Haye have been able to go at that pace for much longer?

        Fury's only chance in this fight is if he takes Haye into the later rounds.

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          #34
          not high nobody wants to get konicked out i guess ?????????? his Name is Deontay wilder sir , show a little respect

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          • yoz
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            #35
            Originally posted by Arsene Knows
            He was up and could have continued. It was almost the end of the round. Chisora himself said it was an early stoppage.

            I didn't say he had him in trouble. He caught Haye with a nice left hook on the bell at the end of one of the rounds and it definitely bothered Haye. It would have been interesting to see what would have happened had the referee not prematurely ended the fight. Would Haye have been able to go at that pace for much longer?

            Fury's only chance in this fight is if he takes Haye into the later rounds.
            You're right. Haye was blowing hard by round 5.

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            • Jam Jars
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              #36
              Originally posted by Arsene Knows
              He was up and could have continued. It was almost the end of the round. Chisora himself said it was an early stoppage.

              I didn't say he had him in trouble. He caught Haye with a nice left hook on the bell at the end of one of the rounds and it definitely bothered Haye. It would have been interesting to see what would have happened had the referee not prematurely ended the fight. Would Haye have been able to go at that pace for much longer?

              Fury's only chance in this fight is if he takes Haye into the later rounds.
              The punch landed 2 seconds after the bell you idiot that's why people reacted, Haye looked tired not hurt from the punch.

              Chisora took aslong as possible to get up the first time and was on his back until the count of 6 the second, he barely beat the count and was still wobbly. The decision to stop it was correct, Chisora would have been put on his back again if it had continued.
              Last edited by Jam Jars; 06-14-2013, 11:49 AM.

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              • yoz
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                #37
                Originally posted by Own3d
                The punch landed 2 seconds after the bell you idiot that's why people reacted, Haye looked tired not hurt from the punch.

                Chisora took aslong as possible to get up the first time and was on his back until the count of 6 the second, he barely beat the count and was still wobbly. The decision to stop it was correct, Chisora would have been put on his back again if it had continued.
                If Chisora had survived the knockdown, Haye would have been in trouble. He was gassing.

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                • Jam Jars
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by yoz
                  If Chisora had survived the knockdown, Haye would have been in trouble. He was gassing.
                  That's the gamble you take, Chisora thought he could survive and gas Haye. It didn't work, unless you have a iron chin you'd be ****** to try it though.

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                  • yoz
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Own3d
                    That's the gamble you take, Chisora thought he could survive and gas Haye. It didn't work, unless you have a iron chin you'd be ****** to try it though.
                    That's why Haye is terrified of Vitali.

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                    • Arsene Knows
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Own3d
                      The punch landed 2 seconds after the bell you idiot that's why people reacted, Haye looked tired not hurt from the punch.
                      2 seconds after the bell?



                      24.12

                      Looks like there was actually 10 seconds left in the round. I was at the fight so I never actually noticed that until now. Who's the idiot?

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