Comments Thread For: Jose Luis Castillo: Canelo Can Defeat Mayweather

[I Love Jesus!]

People have been pulling excuses for Floyd on that fight since before it even happened.

Facts:

1. Floyd did not want to fight Castillo, he was forced to and it started the collapse with Arum. Even Floyd's trainer is on record stating they did not like the matchup and did not want the fight.

2. What was Floyd's injury? Because he only became injured after people ringside started saying he should've lost that fight..how convenient.

3. Saying what happened in the second fight somehow nulls out any debate about the first fight is complete and utter noob logic. Castillo was never the same fighter mentally after he felt he was robbed in that fight. He isn't the first of last fighter to completely never recoup from taking a controversial loss.

Now as a fan of the sport, I have seen that first fight over and over again. Only truly blind fanboys can say that first fight was not debatable and had Mayweather been anyone else he in all likelihood would not have walked out of there with the win. Here is another interesting bit, the only other challenger to floyd with an unorthodox fight style that didn't give away reach advantage to Floyd was Paul Williams and because of that Floyd never fought Paul...interesting...now please give me an excuse as to why Floyd wouldn't fight Paul. I'll give you ten reasons why he refused to fight him.

Come on dude don't come on here making sense and ****. ull ruin these fanboys good time

[MrClutch85]

Castillo was able to close the distance by using head movement /slipping punches on the way in then throwing combos to the head/body or simply jab his way in get close throw combos Canelo is going use of the Castillo/DLH gameplan for Mayweather

[turnedup]

Castillo was able to close the distance by using head movement /slipping punches on the way in then throwing combos to the head/body or simply jab his way in get close throw combos Canelo is going use of the Castillo/DLH gameplan for Mayweather

Funny how we all heard the same thing prior to Canelo beating trout's ass and we saw how that went. I am frankly convinced that this kid is legitimately a dangerous fighter because you don't ever know what he's going to do and he seems to be pretty damned good at everything he does..he outboxed a boxer in trout when everyone expected him to slug away.

[BarryRobinson]

boxing stuff

Saul "Canelo" Alvarez AMSB Film Study Scouting Report vs Floyd Mayweather from Barry Robinson on Vimeo.

[PAC-BOY]

Castillo sounded good up until he said, " I think he should be in the top five in the world in boxing history." Thats where he sounded a little punch drunk!
I mean does he not see the cowardly ducking and lack of fighting top notch opponents, and throw in fighing 4 times in last 7 years...6 out of the last decade.

[whoseyourdaddy]

People have been pulling excuses for Floyd on that fight since before it even happened.

Facts:

1. Floyd did not want to fight Castillo, he was forced to and it started the collapse with Arum. Even Floyd's trainer is on record stating they did not like the matchup and did not want the fight.

2. What was Floyd's injury? Because he only became injured after people ringside started saying he should've lost that fight..how convenient.

3. Saying what happened in the second fight somehow nulls out any debate about the first fight is complete and utter noob logic. Castillo was never the same fighter mentally after he felt he was robbed in that fight. He isn't the first of last fighter to completely never recoup from taking a controversial loss.

Now as a fan of the sport, I have seen that first fight over and over again. Only truly blind fanboys can say that first fight was not debatable and had Mayweather been anyone else he in all likelihood would not have walked out of there with the win. Here is another interesting bit, the only other challenger to floyd with an unorthodox fight style that didn't give away reach advantage to Floyd was Paul Williams and because of that Floyd never fought Paul...interesting...now please give me an excuse as to why Floyd wouldn't fight Paul. I'll give you ten reasons why he refused to fight him.

You Sr. spoke nothing but the truth ^^^^^@ This^^^^^


as far as the article on what Castillo said.......Canelo is not Castillo in his prime, Castillo would bring it in every minute of every round....hence the win in my opinion vs Mayweather. Canelo on the other hand, has no Stamina, fights on spurts, only fights the first half of of every round, if he doesn't bring the likes of a Memo Heredia, Ariza, Conte to his camp, I see no chance in hell he'll beat Mayweather the best P4P of this era.

[sampsonsimpson]

People have been pulling excuses for Floyd on that fight since before it even happened.

Facts:

1. Floyd did not want to fight Castillo, he was forced to and it started the collapse with Arum. Even Floyd's trainer is on record stating they did not like the matchup and did not want the fight.

false

floyds camp wanted him to test the waters at 135 before he fought castillo, but floyd wanted to jump right into the fire ... but youre right, he was so scared to fight castillo that he gave him an immediate rematch after their close first fight

2. What was Floyd's injury? Because he only became injured after people ringside started saying he should've lost that fight..how convenient.

torn rotator cuff, he had surgery after the fight

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after the first round he mentions to his father that his shoulder his hurting him. he reiterated that at mulitple points during the fight they are constantly massaging his left arm in between rounds ... but you would know that if you saw the fight

3. Saying what happened in the second fight somehow nulls out any debate about the first fight is complete and utter noob logic. Castillo was never the same fighter mentally after he felt he was robbed in that fight. He isn't the first of last fighter to completely never recoup from taking a controversial loss.

see this ...

Complaining because people make excuses, then making an excuse. Tight logic.

looks like "noob logic"

Now as a fan of the sport, I have seen that first fight over and over again. Only truly blind fanboys can say that first fight was not debatable and had Mayweather been anyone else he in all likelihood would not have walked out of there with the win. Here is another interesting bit, the only other challenger to floyd with an unorthodox fight style that didn't give away reach advantage to Floyd was Paul Williams and because of that Floyd never fought Paul...interesting...now please give me an excuse as to why Floyd wouldn't fight Paul. I'll give you ten reasons why he refused to fight him.

i always liked paul williams, but he won his first title a few months after floyd fought oscar ... was floyd supposed to fight paul williams over a mega fight with ricky hatton? ... then after floyds fight with hatton, williams lost to carlos quintanna and then floyd "retired" ... but im supposed to believe that floyd was so scared of a guy that just lost to quintana that he retired to avoid him? yea, okay

[whoseyourdaddy]

A lot of your points are spot on, but a lot of them are not. I don't know about Floyd being injured pre-fight, but I do remember him bringing it up to his corner in the middle of the fight if I'm not mistake, his rotater cuff in his shoulder. But that's neither here nor their. This is obviously the most competitive fight in Floyd's unblemished record so of course it warrants a closer look for fans to determine who actually won. I've watched it several times and I continue to score it for Floyd, the 1st 6 rounds were relatively easy, and the latter rounds were very very competitive, and I think the judges undermined Castillo's work to the body, never the less, I scored it a Floyd win, even more so in the rematch, but you are spot on in saying that Castillo had a bit of a drop after being beat the 1st time. As far as the Paul Williams fight, that's laughable. Paul Williams, god bless him, but he's never been one of my favorites. His fighting style was plain idiotic and he had an even dumber trainer. Paul has beaten nobody to warrant a fight with Floyd, and as far as I can remember, they never made any serious calls to the Mayweather camp for a potential fight. Paul was a tall fighter that fought like he was 4 feet tall, and that cost him. He got beat by Martinez twice, and got beat down by Lara. Paul wouldn't of stood a chance against Floyd, but of course that's just my opinion.

The unbiass is at it again you gave floyd the first 6 to Mayweather easely! and the second have to close???? Unbi-ASS you are the most Bi-ass when it comes to Mayweather....the fact that Mayweather hardly trew any punches after the fifth round cause Castillo was doing the counter punching and beating Mayweather to the punch, and putting conbinations of 3 to 4 punches to the body and head of Mayweather with litle response from Floyd, just pot shotting that did not work because Castillo overwelmed him in every second of every round....you can see it in Floyds face he wasn't ejoying/smailing like he always does....that image say more than a "K" words.

[sampsonsimpson]

The unbiass is at it again you gave floyd the first 6 to Mayweather easely! and the second have to close???? Unbi-ASS you are the most Bi-ass when it comes to Mayweather....the fact that Mayweather hardly trew any punches after the fifth round cause Castillo was doing the counter punching and beating Mayweather to the punch, and putting conbinations of 3 to 4 punches to the body and head of Mayweather with litle response from Floyd, just pot shotting that did not work because Castillo overwelmed him in every second of every round....you can see it in Floyds face he wasn't ejoying/smailing like he always does....that image say more than a "K" words.

reading comprehension fail

he said that the first six rounds were easy to score, he didnt say that he scored all six for mayweather

[Sugar Q]

Exactly, now I am a FMJ fan, but there is just no way Floyd could beat Williams.
Too much pressure, too many punches thrown, too long, good chin.
I would have had P Will easily by UD.
Possibly stoppage.

I say your wrong based on the fact that Williams was tall but didn't fight tall and had a habit of fighting down to his opponents size, didn't fight off the jab, threw lots of punches but left himself open which a very fast, accurate puncher like Floyd would've taken advantage of. Sharmba Mitchell was able to hit PWillz with some good shots and so was Quintana so imagine what Floyd would've done. I picked Corrales over Floyd and Corrales was a much better fighter than PWillz at that time which shows that Floyd knew how to handle tall fighters and unlike the Hitman Hearns or Corrales PWillz wasn't a KO King.