Would Gatti's Career been different if he had started off with Buddy Mcgirt

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  • DLT
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    #11
    Originally posted by masterdirector
    somebody missed the point...

    if Gatti had a different style his whole career maybe he would've been better. for one, he'd have been used to that style. It wouldn't matter against Mayweather, of course, but Gatti could've been better than he was had he adopted a more technical style.
    Your missing the point. You cant just take anyone and say he can do this or do that. Most guys are born a certain way or learn from when they were kids.

    No matter when McGirt got Gatti, he would never be a great boxer. Do you think Tyson can do a Mayweather style if he started at the begining? It would look like ****.

    Ive never been to a gym before in my life and I naturally have that same peek a boo style that Tyson and Frazier have. Its my natural style. Gatti isnt a natural boxer and it wouldnt have worked. I got friends who box around and some of them are natural boxers and some are natural brawlers.

    Gatti is a brawler plain and simple

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      #12
      Originally posted by masterdirector
      somebody missed the point...

      if Gatti had a different style his whole career maybe he would've been better. for one, he'd have been used to that style. It wouldn't matter against Mayweather, of course, but Gatti could've been better than he was had he adopted a more technical style.

      i agree.. he wouldve taken alot less punishment too.. i can't wait till this fight with damgaard happens.. he must win this fight..

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      • DLT
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        #13
        You guys act like Gatti is super talented like MAB. You cant just take any guy and say "what if he had this style"?

        MAB is very coordinated. Gatti is not. No matter how much you teach him, he wouldve never been a good boxer

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          #14
          Originally posted by DLT
          You guys act like Gatti is super talented like MAB. You cant just take any guy and say "what if he had this style"?

          MAB is very coordinated. Gatti is not. No matter how much you teach him, he wouldve never been a good boxer
          ***, this is totally hypothetical.

          believe me, I think Gatti is one of the least skilled ****ers to fight in the last 20 years. Nobody here said they think Gatti is talented.

          And you obviously don't know what the **** you're talking about. Styles make fights. And it's hard for someone to learn a new style after they've had a lifetime of a totally different style. That's for any fighter, not Gatti exclusively. Gatti has his old way of fighting still in his mind, sort of like a person learning a 2nd language. He has to convert that into the style.

          Say he didn't have this style ever and it never occured to him to fight like a brawling ***. Maybe he could've been better. You don't know. It isn't crazy to think that he could've possibly been better. Say Gatti would've used the peek-a-boo style. His hands would've always been up, so there alone his defense would've been better. And it would've still been an in-fighter style, so he would've still been exciting probably.

          Don't think at all that I think Gatti is going to do this or that if he had a different style he'd be the best fighter ever. I don't. But I think it is possible if he had a different, more technical style, he could've been better than he was. Mayweather would've still beat his ass most likely.

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            #15
            Originally posted by masterdirector
            ***, this is totally hypothetical.

            believe me, I think Gatti is one of the least skilled ****ers to fight in the last 20 years. Nobody here said they think Gatti is talented.

            And you obviously don't know what the **** you're talking about. Styles make fights. And it's hard for someone to learn a new style after they've had a lifetime of a totally different style. That's for any fighter, not Gatti exclusively. Gatti has his old way of fighting still in his mind, sort of like a person learning a 2nd language. He has to convert that into the style.

            Say he didn't have this style ever and it never occured to him to fight like a brawling ***. Maybe he could've been better. You don't know. It isn't crazy to think that he could've possibly been better. Say Gatti would've used the peek-a-boo style. His hands would've always been up, so there alone his defense would've been better. And it would've still been an in-fighter style, so he would've still been exciting probably.

            Don't think at all that I think Gatti is going to do this or that if he had a different style he'd be the best fighter ever. I don't. But I think it is possible if he had a different, more technical style, he could've been better than he was. Mayweather would've still beat his ass most likely.
            STFU *****. I hate ******* like you who everytime they disagree with someone here they come with names, like your a littile girl or something.

            The peek-a-boo style is still a aggressive style. It is not a boxing style. He would never be able to be a good boxer because he wasnt born with great coordination.

            What makes you think that someone would automatically be better because they switch styles? BTW your talking then there is no real answer to the question, fool. Anyone can say that he may have been better with this style or he may not have been.

            You have to go with what youve seen and what you see is a guy who isnt skilled enough to be a good boxer at anytime

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            • hollister
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              #16
              I think his career most likely would have taken a different path, but I don't think it would have made him a better fighter overall.

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                #17
                Gatti was considered a boxer very early on in his career, but he couldn't handle the attention he was getting as a rising star. He didn't have any dedication for training, and that's what created the brawler in Gatti. He was always a puncher, but a bit more of a boxer/puncher. Once he lost his dedication to training, and started living it up, all he could do was brawl to win fights, because he hadn't practiced his skills in preparation for the fight. After a lot of years of not practicing skills, in anything, you lose them. You may get some of them back, as he's done with McGirt, but he's got a lifetime of bad habits to work against. Gatti could have been a better fighter, I think, or at least have taken a lot less punishment. Gatti occassionally shows flashes of the skills he had when he was very young, by throwing a nice counter or a good combination.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Kayo
                  Would it of been alot better for him if Mcgirt was his trainer from the begining?

                  Yes, but it wouldnt of been possible, Mcgirt was still boxing when Gatti started.

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                  • Red_Menace
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Kayo
                    well mcgirt did more for gatti then just with boxing he also helped him conquer his drinking problem
                    I missed this post when I'd replied. This is exactly the reason Gatti's promising career went down the tubes somewhat quickly. Not that his career has ******, but he could have been better. The guy was too much of a party animal, and was not dedicated to training.

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                    • Kayo
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Red_Menace
                      I missed this post when I'd replied. This is exactly the reason Gatti's promising career went down the tubes somewhat quickly. Not that his career has ******, but he could have been better. The guy was too much of a party animal, and was not dedicated to training.
                      it was the time between 1998 and 2001 where his career really started to sink

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