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  • Erislandy Lara vs Alfredo Angulo: Who Do You Have?

    Alfredo Angulo vs Erislandy Lara is a pretty hardcore fans fight. What do I mean by that? Well, on the surface it could seem pretty insignificant. It’s not a main event and it’s not for a title or even an eliminator (the main event being for an intercontinental title in the Marcos Maidana vs Josesito Lopez bout). But it does indeed have significance to the winner as any boxing insider knows.

    The 154lb division has been labeled everything from “stacked” to “overrated” in the last couple years. This writer thinks that it stands somewhere in between, as is usually the case. Lots of talent but not many showdowns. And the ones that have happened have ended with question marks – just think about James Kirkland vs Carlos Molina, or Erislandy Lara vs Vanes Martirosyan, or Lara vs Paul Williams, or Lara vs Molina. Hmm is there a trend here…?

    There does seem to be a trend with Lara – as Max Kellerman pointed out in the Martirosyan fight. He finally started to get some recognition after the Ronald Hearns destruction but then lost the steam again in less than stellar performances against Freddy Hernandez and Martirosyan. I gotta say; it is nobodies fault but his own that his name is still fairly unknown outside boxing circles. Gotta fight more often and get in the publics eye, especially after so many question mark endings to fights.

    As for Angulo he is relatively known, even outside boxing circles. Am I labeling him a draw? Of course not – his stock has never been lower than right now. But he made plenty of televised appearances and is of course a fan favorite for his bruising, straight-forward style. His problem is his strange hiatus in lock-up, or should I say “self-imposed imprisonment” since he chose to stay behind bars himself.

    This fight is no doubt a war of names – each guy wants to garner enough attention for the big money fights that in the jr. middleweight division or a division up or down. There are plenty to choose from, but none of those fighters are going to choose unknowns that have not been in the publics eye often enough (or without a signature win of late).

    I do not see this fight ending with question marks – it just is not Angulo’s style at all. There should be a clear winner and clear loser in this one and oddly enough it is a tough pick. One would want to lean towards Lara seeing as Angulo has looked pretty bad since his comeback but it is inevitable that those cobwebs would be shaken off for a fight of this magnitude. And also he has the style advantage over Lara, as Lara has struggled with pressure time and time again.

    Cannot wait for this fight – to me it has more meaning than all the others on a packed weekend for boxing coming up.

    I am picking Lara by wide decision. I think he will be well trained for this one and motivated, sitting back and letting Angulo walk right to him and counter him to death. Who do you guys have?

  • #2
    Originally posted by KidHersh View Post
    Alfredo Angulo vs Erislandy Lara is a pretty hardcore fans fight. What do I mean by that? Well, on the surface it could seem pretty insignificant. It’s not a main event and it’s not for a title or even an eliminator (the main event being for an intercontinental title in the Marcos Maidana vs Josesito Lopez bout). But it does indeed have significance to the winner as any boxing insider knows.

    The 154lb division has been labeled everything from “stacked” to “overrated” in the last couple years. This writer thinks that it stands somewhere in between, as is usually the case. Lots of talent but not many showdowns. And the ones that have happened have ended with question marks – just think about James Kirkland vs Carlos Molina, or Erislandy Lara vs Vanes Martirosyan, or Lara vs Paul Williams, or Lara vs Molina. Hmm is there a trend here…?

    There does seem to be a trend with Lara – as Max Kellerman pointed out in the Martirosyan fight. He finally started to get some recognition after the Ronald Hearns destruction but then lost the steam again in less than stellar performances against Freddy Hernandez and Martirosyan. I gotta say; it is nobodies fault but his own that his name is still fairly unknown outside boxing circles. Gotta fight more often and get in the publics eye, especially after so many question mark endings to fights.

    As for Angulo he is relatively known, even outside boxing circles. Am I labeling him a draw? Of course not – his stock has never been lower than right now. But he made plenty of televised appearances and is of course a fan favorite for his bruising, straight-forward style. His problem is his strange hiatus in lock-up, or should I say “self-imposed imprisonment” since he chose to stay behind bars himself.

    This fight is no doubt a war of names – each guy wants to garner enough attention for the big money fights that in the jr. middleweight division or a division up or down. There are plenty to choose from, but none of those fighters are going to choose unknowns that have not been in the publics eye often enough (or without a signature win of late).

    I do not see this fight ending with question marks – it just is not Angulo’s style at all. There should be a clear winner and clear loser in this one and oddly enough it is a tough pick. One would want to lean towards Lara seeing as Angulo has looked pretty bad since his comeback but it is inevitable that those cobwebs would be shaken off for a fight of this magnitude. And also he has the style advantage over Lara, as Lara has struggled with pressure time and time again.

    Cannot wait for this fight – to me it has more meaning than all the others on a packed weekend for boxing coming up.

    I am picking Lara by wide decision. I think he will be well trained for this one and motivated, sitting back and letting Angulo walk right to him and counter him to death. Who do you guys have?
    Good write-up. I have Lara by wide decision as well, but it's interesting that you make that pick after saying that Angulo "has the style advantage over Lara, as Lara has struggled with pressure time and time again."

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    • #3
      Lara win, stoppage or a very wide decision. Too fast, too smart & way too skilled for the limited Angulo who IMO has suspect stamina, no head movement & for me only looks good against non-durable journeymen.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC View Post
        Good write-up. I have Lara by wide decision as well, but it's interesting that you make that pick after saying that Angulo "has the style advantage over Lara, as Lara has struggled with pressure time and time again."
        Yeh maybe I talked myself in a circle there it seems. I think pressure is the way to beat Lara, pressure and a good beard are his poison, like a Margarito type of fighter. Or maybe even Kirkland if he is up for the fight. Lara likes to sit back and counter but he doesn't have the work-rate to stay on top of a relentless style. Even Martirosyan managed to get on top of him for a few rounds. But then again, Vanes is a decent fighter in his own way.

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        • #5
          Pre- Jail angulo would have a punchers chance...bt angulo now is too slow...easy win 4 Lara...end of discussion

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          • #6
            Originally posted by KidHersh View Post
            Yeh maybe I talked myself in a circle there it seems. I think pressure is the way to beat Lara, pressure and a good beard are his poison, like a Margarito type of fighter. Or maybe even Kirkland if he is up for the fight. Lara likes to sit back and counter but he doesn't have the work-rate to stay on top of a relentless style. Even Martirosyan managed to get on top of him for a few rounds. But then again, Vanes is a decent fighter in his own way.
            Thanks for clearing that up. Nice assessment, I agree on all counts. Lara is frustratingly inactive and tends to ball-up when swarmed. And Landy has no inside game. The kind of pressure fighter you described might make him crumble. Of course, there aren't too many of those walking around....

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            • #7
              Originally posted by KidHersh View Post
              Yeh maybe I talked myself in a circle there it seems. I think pressure is the way to beat Lara, pressure and a good beard are his poison, like a Margarito type of fighter. Or maybe even Kirkland if he is up for the fight. Lara likes to sit back and counter but he doesn't have the work-rate to stay on top of a relentless style. Even Martirosyan managed to get on top of him for a few rounds. But then again, Vanes is a decent fighter in his own way.



              Kirkland is so damn slow as is Angulo it was honestly like watching them in slow motion.

              If Kirklands jab from the southpaw stance was able to trouble Angulo so badly then Lara will have a field day with him.

              I think Lara can force the stoppage in this one.

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              • #8
                Lara should be a clear favorite in this one. Stylistically, he should be able to handle Angulo well, and will probably knock him out. Intangibles ARE in play, however, and that's why we'll be watching. Angulo has shown good timing with his punches, effective cutting off of the ring, and a will to win that helped him get through tougher moments in fights -- but most of these traits appeared before his long layoff.

                If Lara's inconsistency works against him, and Angulo is back to his old self, it'll be interesting and likely a close decision. Otherwise I see it ending by KO in Lara's favor.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by dan_cov View Post


                  Kirkland is so damn slow as is Angulo it was honestly like watching them in slow motion.

                  If Kirklands jab from the southpaw stance was able to trouble Angulo so badly then Lara will have a field day with him.

                  I think Lara can force the stoppage in this one.
                  Good God, man. Angulo was painfully slow in his last fight versus Silva. "Perro" looked like a caveman wading through quicksand. If Jorge hadn't of inexplicably chosen to exchange with Alfredo so many times, he might've pulled out the win. I just can't see someone as slow as Angulo having a chance against Lara.

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                  • #10
                    i want Angulo to win, but he never reach that top level n hes looking worst now days, hopefully he fights better with the motivation of fighting a top contender

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