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  • #21
    Originally posted by Own3d View Post
    If the champion does not sign a bout contract within the required twenty
    (20) day period after the bid award, or refuses otherwise to participate in the bout for the winning
    promoter, he shall be considered in violation of these Rules, and may have his title vacated.

    http://wbanews.com/artman/uploads/1/...a_10-30-12.pdf

    By my understanding the purse bid winner gets to choose almost everything and RUSADA are the recognised agency in the country the bout would take place. Klitschko is the one trying to bend the rules to suit him so should be stripped. Of course that would be unlikely because the greedy orgs will make more money by keeping Wlad as champ.
    That was probably the intent behind the sketchy purse bid. Now according to Hryunov, they no longer insist on Wlad using RUSADA, but Povetkin is not using NADA. Wlad should just call them on their bluff, he can beat Povetkin on the best drugs Russia can design.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by HeroBando View Post
      That was probably the intent behind the sketchy purse bid. Now according to Hryunov, they no longer insist on Wlad using RUSADA, but Povetkin is not using NADA. Wlad should just call them on their bluff, he can beat Povetkin on the best drugs Russia can design.
      I don't know about that, we saw what Heredia did for Marquez's punching power. With the right ****tail they could turn Sasha into a dangerous puncher.

      What happened to the proposed VADA solution?

      I think Fury is going to fight one of these guys, his announcement is on June 8th, a day after negotiations are due to end between Klitschko and Povetkin.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by The Weebler II View Post
        I don't know about that, we saw what Heredia did for Marquez's punching power. With the right ****tail they could turn Sasha into a dangerous puncher.

        What happened to the proposed VADA solution?

        I think Fury is going to fight one of these guys, his announcement is on June 8th, a day after negotiations are due to end between Klitschko and Povetkin.
        Is there a drug for head movement, to stop his from acting like a right hand magnet? I used to think he had potential till I saw the fight vs Huck.

        Which side proposed VADA? I though Fury was fighting Haye anyway?

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        • #24
          Originally posted by HeroBando View Post
          Is there a drug for head movement, to stop his from acting like a right hand magnet? I used to think he had potential till I saw the fight vs Huck.

          Which side proposed VADA? I though Fury was fighting Haye anyway?
          I'm just saying he could potentially be a significantly more dangerous opponent when roided up, Wladimir would be silly to take that risk imo. After all he was rocked by a cheating Wach in his last fight.

          The VADA solution was mentioned in an article a while back, I think Hrynov suggested it (but not 100% on that).

          On Fury-Haye, there is a lot of talk in the media but Fury's promoter said a week or two ago there was no fight in the works. Perhaps it will happen but I just find the June 8th date for the announcement of Fury's next opponent interesting since Klitschko-Povetkin negotiations end on June 7th.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by HeroBando View Post
            That was probably the intent behind the sketchy purse bid. Now according to Hryunov, they no longer insist on Wlad using RUSADA, but Povetkin is not using NADA. Wlad should just call them on their bluff, he can beat Povetkin on the best drugs Russia can design.
            When did Wach rock Wlad? I honestly don't even remember him hitting Wlad.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Ravens Fan View Post
              When did Wach rock Wlad? I honestly don't even remember him hitting Wlad.
              The end of round 5 (from 2:45 on the video)

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Own3d View Post
                You mean like K2 do for every mandatory fight?
                You couldn't name a fight where the Klitschko's didn't win fair and in square.

                You reference "the holding" but the reality of the matter is that in Germany, in Wlad's biggest fight, with his officials, the referee deducted a point from him for standing there while David Haye dove onto the ground unprovoked.

                I don't recall them ever taking a point off an opponent, giving Wlad a 15 count on a knockdown or scoring rounds to him that he did not clearly win.

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                • #28
                  Had the feeling this fight wouldn't happen. It just seems fishy, everything. Very disappointing from a fan's perspective. IMO both Klitschko and Povetkin need this fight too. Who wants to see Wlad figting another stiff Wach or cruiser Mormeck? Who wants to see Povetkin keeping his paper belt? This is what kills boxing.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Own3d View Post
                    I don't think the testing is the biggest issue here that's why Klitschko'd team have sais it's multiple things. Hryunov already said NADA can do the testing and they just want samples sending to RUSADA, if one tests positive they would have to provide proof before anyone can be punished a clean fighter has no need to worry.

                    I believe Klitschko's team aren't too keen on fighting in someone else's backyard and possibly having a ref that won't allow the holding. If there's one thing we know about the Klitschko's it's they want everything their way, ring size, venue, rematch clauses, gloves, press conferences, they even request bigger purse percentages for mandatory fights that are standard 75/25 split to the champ. The Klitschko's are the worst fighters to negotiate with in the sport, its hilarious reading people criticise Povetkin and his team for a few requests when the bro's have been demanding their opponents sign far more ridiculous contracts.
                    Ha ha ha, here we go again...

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by DreamFighter View Post
                      wlad wants to move on to fighting another bum.

                      please retire, k2s and let the hw crown free from muddragging.
                      So you want the Klitschko's to retire- they are the only decent fighters in the Heavyweight division today - we will go back to the early 80's where the heavyweight belt will passed around after every 2nd fight - Povetkin would lose to Arreola then to Stiverne then to Fury then to Price then to Thompson then to Wilder etc etc. - be careful what you wish for.

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