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  • joeboy1983
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    #881
    Originally posted by Pacdbest
    I'm not giving money to Floyd, I'm not ordering this ppv, but I agree with Doug, this is the fight that Floyd can lose! I picked Trout against Canelo, but Canelo proved me wrong in there!

    Canelo showed some defensive skills and smarts in that fight! And Canelo is not that slow as most analyst said! Canelo is not as fast as Floyd or Pac, but he has a quick trigger for a 154lbs fighter. And he has a better straight right and uppercuts than cotto.

    I'm not solid yet but I'm getting close on picking Canelo! one more week! I'm still watching his last fights! Lucky they're showing the ppv previews and replays for free on on demand!
    Honestly doesn't need your money, He's getting 41.5 without you or me..but I'll buy the fight or watch it at a buddies because I'm a fan, thats what we do. Stop trying to step out of the realm of "FAN".

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    • joeboy1983
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      #882
      Because he clearly lose when he fought like that against cotto. Watch the fight, Floyd still moved in that fight he just mixed it up more. He only mixed it up enough to get hit with hard jabs and glancing blows. He didn't go all GATTI and slug it out.

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      • BoxingFollower
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        #883
        Originally posted by Pacdbest
        Floyd can win in a pot shooting/ boring contest! But if he fights like in a Cotto fight He'll lose!
        I thought Floyd ran from Cotto like he ran from all the other fighters?

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        • Porter's Dad
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          #884
          Originally posted by mrpain81
          When the fight was first announced I thought it was 75-35 Mayweather. Right now I'm thinking 60-40 and I'll tell you why.

          Over trained - Mayweather hasn't fought twice in 1 year in about 6 years, he was 150lbs 30 days before the fight. People are overlooking that Mayweather could have over trained for this fight, he was gasping for air in that public workout when he was doing the speed bag telling people to step back so he could get some air. I'm not saying that's a clear sign but he looked a little rusty when just a few weeks back he looked better on another ustream workout he had.

          Maybe he was just having a bad day but he didn't look like vintage Mayweather.

          Hand problems - He admittedly hurt his hands against Guerrero and less then 1-2 months he's back in the gym? How's he going to keep Canelo off if he were to injure his hand again? To get Canelo's respect he's going to have to put some hurting on him and with a busted hand that could be a huge problem.

          Canelo is really good/Smart - He's a fighter who has shown to adapt his style and come in with a great game plan, Mayweather might have a false sense of confidence from fighting the "Toe to Toe" Zombie in Guerrero and might have bit off more then he can chew.

          Canelo is getting no respect around here but I can't remember the last Mayweather fight where I thought there was a good chance of him losing.
          Some good points. I really am surprised how much Saul is getting slept on here. IMHO, this is a very dangerous fight for Mayweather and I will get him a ton of credit if he wins as decisively as everyone presumes he will.

          The thing about Canelo is, he is very skilled, freakishly poised for a young fighter, and isn't one-dimensional.

          A lot of the guys Floyd has fought just aren't that skilled - and those that are, like Oscar/Cotto/JMM/Mosley were not up at their physical peak (yes, I know it's a catchweight but let's presume Saul makes weight well).

          People really think Floyd is gonna easily UD guy a full legit weight class above him (and Mayweather is maxed out in terms of how high he can go, whereas Saul will keep going), with excellent ring IQ and skills, improvement from fight to fight, and has good punching power? Hell, he even showed good defence against Trout.

          I think Floyd is in for a rough fight.

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          • .:: JSFD26 ::.
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            #885
            If Canelo had dominated Trout I wouldn't have a problem with someone picking him but we know that wasn't the case.

            The people banking on Canelo are just banking on his size. Sorry that ain't gonna cut it.


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              #886
              Mayweather weighing 150lbs is a sign of him over training? Or maybe its cause the dude isn't that big? Stop reaching.


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                #887
                Originally posted by BoxingFollower
                I have it 60-40 for Mayweather rounds 1-4. After that 80-20 Mayweather.
                What am I saying??? Is that if Canelo is gonna win he has to do hughe damage in rounds 1-4.
                Canelo needs a home run KO to win. Dude started boxing 10 years ago. Don't believe the hype. Floyd has seen this before. Canelo has never seen anything like he will see in the ring in one week.

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                • MindBat
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                  #888
                  Originally posted by mrpain81
                  When the fight was first announced I thought it was 75-35 Mayweather. Right now I'm thinking 60-40 and I'll tell you why.

                  Over trained - Mayweather hasn't fought twice in 1 year in about 6 years, he was 150lbs 30 days before the fight. People are overlooking that Mayweather could have over trained for this fight, he was gasping for air in that public workout when he was doing the speed bag telling people to step back so he could get some air. I'm not saying that's a clear sign but he looked a little rusty when just a few weeks back he looked better on another ustream workout he had.

                  Maybe he was just having a bad day but he didn't look like vintage Mayweather.

                  Hand problems - He admittedly hurt his hands against Guerrero and less then 1-2 months he's back in the gym? How's he going to keep Canelo off if he were to injure his hand again? To get Canelo's respect he's going to have to put some hurting on him and with a busted hand that could be a huge problem.

                  Canelo is really good/Smart - He's a fighter who has shown to adapt his style and come in with a great game plan, Mayweather might have a false sense of confidence from fighting the "Toe to Toe" Zombie in Guerrero and might have bit off more then he can chew.

                  Canelo is getting no respect around here but I can't remember the last Mayweather fight where I thought there was a good chance of him losing.
                  If he had broken his hand, then it wouldn't be a smart move to train on it 1-2 month's after hurting it. He bruised it and had hand therapy performed soon after. There is a possibility he can hurt it again and that would be cause for concern.

                  Canelo should not be underestimated. That would be very negligent on any fighter's part.


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                  • BoxingFollower
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                    #889
                    Originally posted by PBP
                    Canelo needs a home run KO to win. Dude started boxing 10 years ago. Don't believe the hype. Floyd has seen this before. Canelo has never seen anything like he will see in the ring in one week.
                    Yes a 1 hit KO is fine, but maybe a Flash Knockdown, Knockdown, or just atlest do some damage to Floyd.

                    In other words, Canelo only has a punchers chance.

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                    • MindBat
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                      #890
                      Originally posted by Pacdbest
                      Floyd can win in a pot shooting/ boring contest! But if he fights like in a Cotto fight He'll lose!
                      pot shooting meaning he'll box circles around him? Getting on your toes and boxing doesn't make it illegal.

                      The question is: Can Canelo cut off the ring effectively, and can he neutralize a boxer/counter puncher like Floyd?

                      If you believe he cannot, then what's the use in watching it?


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