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  • eddiefutch
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    #101
    Originally posted by TX_BOXNG
    I agree with Froch, Calzaghe didnt do much but exposed easy Jeff Lacy n a good win vs prime Kessler
    Calzaghe also beat Bernard Hopkins,Roy Jones Jr,Sakio Bika,Peter Manfredo Jr..The only really impressive wins though are Hopkins and Kessler.

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    • Weebler I
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      #102
      Originally posted by LacedUp
      Not true. He came back strong in the 8th and 9th if I remember correctly and won those rounds. He was pretty clearly ahead as far as memory goes.
      I watched and scored the whole fight again about a month ago. Iirc I gave Taylor one round past the 6th (which I scored to Froch).

      The second half of the bout belonged to Froch, generally speaking Taylor was relying on the lead he built in the first half.

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      • Joeyzagz
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        #103
        All 3 guys are very close in my opinion.

        Title Defenses: Calzaghe
        Resume: Lennox
        Record: Calzaghe
        Excitement: Froch
        Draw: Lennox

        But Froch will NEVER be ahead of Calzaghe unless he can beat Ward or Knockout Hopkins in a devastating manner.

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          #104
          Originally posted by Joeyzagz
          But Froch will NEVER be ahead of Calzaghe unless he can beat Ward or Knockout Hopkins in a devastating manner.
          So hypothetically Froch could beat Stieglitz, Martinez, Golovkin, Groves, Cleverly, Murray, Bika, Chavez Jr. and still not be ahead of Calzaghe?

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            #105
            Originally posted by The Weebler II
            So hypothetically Froch could beat Stieglitz, Martinez, Golovkin, Groves, Cleverly, Murray, Bika, Chavez Jr. and still not be ahead of Calzaghe?
            Yes, because right now all considered B or B+ fighters and only one is a LHW most are MW or SMW B level.

            The best win there imo is Cleverly who is a LHW but depends on what he achieves by the time Froch's fought him coz he isn't rated by most right now.

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            • SAJ10
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              #106
              Originally posted by Ravens Fan
              You mentioned a lot of good things. However, one thing that you did not mention about Calzaghe was the fact he was on Ring magazines top P4P list for at least a couple of years. If I remember correctly I believe he was as high as number three when he retired.
              That's true actually you're right I forgot. I think but not 100% certain he was ranked 2 only behind Pacquiao (as Mayweather was on one of his retirements).

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              • DreamFighter
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                #107
                Hatton equals him for spirit and Hamed was indeed more exciting to watch while it lasted but once Barrera burst his bubble he just gave up, which is pretty limp (unless theres some health reason that remains undisclosed).

                I find it hard to apothesise Hamed in the same way that Froch and Hatton can easily be idolised. Hamed remains an oddity, the one that got away, the guy who walked away from it all as if he'd fell ill to a mysterious sickness that crippled him forever.
                Last edited by DreamFighter; 05-30-2013, 09:15 AM.

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                • Tonyu
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                  #108
                  Froch will always live in Calzaghe's shadow on accomplishments and record and this eats at him everyday - Carl had the chance to push him onto Joe's level but failed disimally against Ward and that is a fact there's nothing he can do about that - he lost to Kessler after Joe beat him I know he got the win last week but no-one can tell me that was a prime Kessler - Joe gave an unbeaten Kessler his first loss and KesSller beat Froch first time around that Froch can't reverse.

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                  • JmH Reborn
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by DreamFighter
                    Hatton equals him for spirit and Hamed was indeed more exciting to watch while it lasted but once Barrera burst his bubble he just gave up, which is pretty limp (unless theres some health reason that remains undisclosed).

                    I find it hard to apothesise Hamed in the same way that Froch and Hatton can easily be idolised. Hamed remains an oddity, the one that got away, the guy who walked away from it all as if he'd fell ill to a mysterious sickness that crippled him forever.
                    Yeah, it was lack of heart

                    Froch is probably my favorite fighter to ever come out of the UK. I heart the Cobra. To be honest, I believe his win over Bute is on par with Calzaghe's Kessler win. Afterwards he has an undeserved Hopkins W under his belt and Lacy. So Calzaghe has maybe just one great win, an undeserved W and Lacy.

                    In terms of resume, Froch is well ahead. He's also more exciting, has more heart and at 35 is still challenging himself. Hell, Froch fighting Andre Ward in his prime is better than the best run Calzaghe could muster. Froch is a true worldwide champ.

                    Against Hatton and Lewis, things get much tougher to break down. All three were/are great and deserve tremendous respect.

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                      #110
                      Originally posted by SAJ10
                      Yes, because right now all considered B or B+ fighters and only one is a LHW most are MW or SMW B level.

                      The best win there imo is Cleverly who is a LHW but depends on what he achieves by the time Froch's fought him coz he isn't rated by most right now.
                      Sergio Martinez is a B level fighter? He's considered the best in his division and No.4 PFP. It won't be long until Golovkin is seen in that light either.

                      Sorry but I don't buy the only Ward and Hopkins talk.

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