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  • IronDanHamza
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    #11
    I thought Taylor was winning the fight but it doesn't matter if he won every second of every round, Froch knocked him out. It's irrelevant.

    "Lucky KO's" is one of the most ridiculous things I hear.

    Froch punched him, repeatedly, in the face, leaving him a bloody mess in which the fight had to be stopped. On which Planet is that lucky in a BOXING match?

    Dirrell I thought beat Froch. But he lost the fight for himself, if he fought like he did in the last few rounds he could have won the fight and would have won but mentally, I don't think he has it.

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    • Juof
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      #12
      Iv never seen froch's nose so bruised ward kept on popping him

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        #13
        I had Dirrell winning against Froch and Ward vs Froch was a very, very decisive win for Ward.


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          #14
          Originally posted by haverespect
          I like Froch a lot, hes grown on me, I feel hes a unique fighter and his ability is very much underrated.

          What he does doesn't always look good but its very difficult to stop and is often very effective.

          That being said though I am going to have to disagree with your comments

          1- I give credit to Froch for pulling out that KO out the bag and getting off the canvas aswell but Jermain Taylor was very much ahead buy a few rounds in that fight, Froch was chasing him round the ring and missing alot in that fight

          2- Not necessarily a robbery but I did have Dirrel up by 2 rounds. He may have started a bit dodgy falling on floor ect, but was a dirty fight between them both and towards the latter rounds he was relentlessly tagging froch and it actually looked on Frochs face like he was very worried before the decision was made, that was a home town decision and froch got lucky that night imo, the setanta pundits scored it for Dirrel that night too, well apart from Bunce but you know what he is like lol

          3- Sorry but Ward did school Froch, Froch followed him around all night and Ward was just way too slick constantly slipping frochs punches and tagging his beak, virtually a complete shutout not even close.

          Now this is just being honest, doesn't take anything away from the fact that Froch is quality and is probably our best fighter at the moment
          facts are the stas showed froch landed more, and dirrells face was bloodied more as froch was unmarked.

          Dirrells best round was round 11 were he rightfully got docked a point for all his holding and illegal ducking, so his best round was a draw, and he himself admitted he lost the 12th, a round where his corner said he needed a kncokout to win.


          As for Taylor analysis, the boxing world disagrees with you, froch pretty much won from roundds 7 onwadrds and landed 39 power shots in round 12 alone.

          Stop making things up.

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            #15
            Originally posted by IronDanHamza
            I thought Taylor was winning the fight but it doesn't matter if he won every second of every round, Froch knocked him out. It's irrelevant.

            "Lucky KO's" is one of the most ridiculous things I hear.

            Froch punched him, repeatedly, in the face, leaving him a bloody mess in which the fight had to be stopped. On which Planet is that lucky in a BOXING match?

            Dirrell I thought beat Froch. But he lost the fight for himself, if he fought like he did in the last few rounds he could have won the fight and would have won but mentally, I don't think he has it.

            But froch outlanded dirrell, they are the facts, hit and dont be hit. If froch outlands someone then he wins a fight. If hes busier and dominates the ring, how can you seriously score it to dirrell??Makes no logical sense.

            As i say these myths seem tougher to bust than i first thought.

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            • Rip Chudd
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              #16
              Originally posted by slimshandy69
              But froch outlanded dirrell, they are the facts, hit and dont be hit. If froch outlands someone then he wins a fight. If hes busier and dominates the ring, how can you seriously score it to dirrell??Makes no logical sense.

              As i say these myths seem tougher to bust than i first thought.
              Joshua Clottey outlanded Cotto but lost the fight. There goes that logic huh.

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              • haverespect
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                #17
                Like I say a close fight but Froch looked pretty shopworn himself!

                Most corners will tell the 'away' fighter to win the last round as its very common now days for the hometown fighter to win even if their slightly behind on points, very difficult for the opponent to get the nod in the champions back yard

                Don't let things like bias commentry and compubox fool you, Froch has a great work rate and output but if he landed more the certainly wern't clean and more likely elbow shots

                You say the whole boxing world but I would guess 80% of non biased boxing fans would have Taylor winning the fight ahead of the knockout too

                Yes Froch came on strong but winning round 7 onwards does not win you the fight, good job he got the Ko or that was a loss for sure

                I don't know what fight you were watching man!


                Originally posted by slimshandy69
                facts are the stas showed froch landed more, and dirrells face was bloodied more as froch was unmarked.

                Dirrells best round was round 11 were he rightfully got docked a point for all his holding and illegal ducking, so his best round was a draw, and he himself admitted he lost the 12th, a round where his corner said he needed a kncokout to win.


                As for Taylor analysis, the boxing world disagrees with you, froch pretty much won from roundds 7 onwadrds and landed 39 power shots in round 12 alone.

                Stop making things up.

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                • IronDanHamza
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by slimshandy69
                  But froch outlanded dirrell, they are the facts, hit and dont be hit. If froch outlands someone then he wins a fight. If hes busier and dominates the ring, how can you seriously score it to dirrell??Makes no logical sense.

                  As i say these myths seem tougher to bust than i first thought.
                  Are punch stats the be all and end all?

                  Do you think Mathebula beat Donaire? He outthrew and out landed him.

                  I'm not saying Dirrell was robbed.

                  But the fight was obviously close and at the very least could have gone either way.

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                  • slimshandy69
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                    #19
                    i never argued taylor was ahead, people are putting words in my mouth.

                    I simply said it was a myth that froch was getting schooled by taylor, which he wasnt, and it was a myth that it was a lucky punch, as it was one of the most one sided rounds ive ever seen.

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