Anyone wanna tell me what's going on at 168? (belts)

[Assteroid Field]

When did Kessler win the WBA title? Didn't Ward win that one during the Super Six? I know Froch won the IBF from Bute, and I know Ward was recently stripped of the WBC title...

Does this mean Ward is now beltless? Does he get to hold on to the Ring belt? What's the criteria for the receiving the ring belt? Should Froch get that one too now that he's unified champ? WTF is going on?!?

This ****'s confusing, and I like to think of myself as a fairly knowledgeable fan, wouldn't want to imagine the casuals trying to figure this crap out.

[Wenger Is God]

Isn't Ward the WBA Super Dooper World Champion?

And Froch is just the "Regular" Champion?

*** knows

[CraigM]

Froch - IBF Champion
Stieglitz - WBO Champion
Ward - WBA 'Super' Champion
Froch - WBA 'Regular' Champion
WBC - Vacant

for Ward to lose the Ring belt he needs to be replaced as the number one super middle on the ring rankings against the number 2 ring fighter.

I think thats the rules anyway

[CraigM]

Just had a look on WBA site...

WBA SUPER CHAMPIONSHIPS
(by WBA - Feb 11, 2009 - 11:12:37 AM)

DEFINITION

The SUPER WORLD CHAMPION CATEGORY OR UNDISPUTED WORLD CHAMPION was created for those World Champions who hold the title of two or more organizations recognized by the WBA, like the World Boxing Council (WBC), the International Boxing Federation (IBF) and the World Boxing Organization (WBO).

The creation of the category of SUPER WORLD CHAMPIONS or UNDISPUTED WORLD CHAMPIONS was born from a suggestion sent to us by Lennox Lewis, World Boxing Association former Heavyweight Champion, which we have considered convenient in order to give the Unified Champions a more flexible time to defend their titles as well as the challengers the chance to fight for the title.

PROPOSED REGULATION

We are still working to set the regulation that shall rule the SUPER WORLD CHAMPIONS, and we have considered it convenient to establish the following:

The SUPER CHAMPIONS will be obliged to make the mandatory defense of their titles in a period no longer than 18 months against the boxer recognized as the World Boxing Association Champion of the corresponding division.
In the intermediate period between the mandatory defenses, the UNDISPUTED SUPER CHAMPION will be able to defend his title against any recognized opponent chosen from the official ratings list of the WBA or from the organizations it recognizes and with the approval of those organizations.
The WBA, WBC, IBF and WBO will coordinate whenever necessary their respective ratings, to minimize any incompatibility in them for the Unified Titles, thus easing the optional fights of the UNIFIED SUPER CHAMPIONS.
In those cases of controversies that make difficult the selection of the mandatory contender to fight with the SUPER CHAMPION, the organizations will be able to order mandatory fights (Box-off suggested by Lennox Lewis) to determine the mandatory contender –previously agreed-. In those cases when they do not reach an agreement to make the mandatory fight as it is stated in point ‘a’ and ‘b’ previously stated in this provisional regulation, the Purse Bid Procedure will be ordered.

[Assteroid Field]

Uhh, makes sense, sorta...

anyone wanna explain now what makes Ward the WBA super champion??


edit: nevermind, missed that last post, thanks

[CraigM]

and for the ring...

CHAMPIONSHIP POLICY - Championship vacancies can be filled in the following two ways: 1. THE RING’s Nos. 1 and 2 contenders fight one another. 2. If the Nos. 1 and 2 contenders chose not to fight one another and either of them fights No. 3, No. 4 or No. 5, the winner may be awarded THE RING belt if the Editorial Board deems the contenders worthy. Here are the seven situations in which a champion can lose his belt: 1. The Champion loses a fight in the weight class in which he is champion.
2. The Champion moves to another weight class.
3. The Champion does not schedule a fight in any weight class for 18 months.
4. The Champion does not schedule a fight at his championship weight for 18 months (even if he fights at another weight).
5. The Champion does not schedule a fight with a Top-5 contender from any weight class for two years.
6. The Champion retires.
7. The Champion tests positive for a banned substance.

RATINGS POLICY The criteria by which THE RING rates fighters is as follows (in order of importance):
1. Results. This is the most objective criterion and takes precedence over all others.
2. Performance. How a fighter performs in a victory or defeat can be a factor to determine his place in the ratings.
3. Track record: A fighter’s accomplishments in the recent past can be a factor to determine his place in the ratings. That includes quality of opposition.

[Assteroid Field]

Just had a look on WBA site...

WBA SUPER CHAMPIONSHIPS
(by WBA - Feb 11, 2009 - 11:12:37 AM)

DEFINITION

The SUPER WORLD CHAMPION CATEGORY OR UNDISPUTED WORLD CHAMPION was created for those World Champions who hold the title of two or more organizations recognized by the WBA, like the World Boxing Council (WBC), the International Boxing Federation (IBF) and the World Boxing Organization (WBO).

The creation of the category of SUPER WORLD CHAMPIONS or UNDISPUTED WORLD CHAMPIONS was born from a suggestion sent to us by Lennox Lewis, World Boxing Association former Heavyweight Champion, which we have considered convenient in order to give the Unified Champions a more flexible time to defend their titles as well as the challengers the chance to fight for the title.

PROPOSED REGULATION

We are still working to set the regulation that shall rule the SUPER WORLD CHAMPIONS, and we have considered it convenient to establish the following:

The SUPER CHAMPIONS will be obliged to make the mandatory defense of their titles in a period no longer than 18 months against the boxer recognized as the World Boxing Association Champion of the corresponding division.
In the intermediate period between the mandatory defenses, the UNDISPUTED SUPER CHAMPION will be able to defend his title against any recognized opponent chosen from the official ratings list of the WBA or from the organizations it recognizes and with the approval of those organizations.
The WBA, WBC, IBF and WBO will coordinate whenever necessary their respective ratings, to minimize any incompatibility in them for the Unified Titles, thus easing the optional fights of the UNIFIED SUPER CHAMPIONS.
In those cases of controversies that make difficult the selection of the mandatory contender to fight with the SUPER CHAMPION, the organizations will be able to order mandatory fights (Box-off suggested by Lennox Lewis) to determine the mandatory contender –previously agreed-. In those cases when they do not reach an agreement to make the mandatory fight as it is stated in point ‘a’ and ‘b’ previously stated in this provisional regulation, the Purse Bid Procedure will be ordered.

By that logic, shouldn't Froch be WBA super champ?

Honestly, this is ridiculous.

[CraigM]

Uhh, makes sense, sorta...

anyone wanna explain now what makes Ward the WBA super champion??


edit: nevermind, missed that last post, thanks

Thats alright, wanted to know myself too lol so had a google

and yeah I agree, it makes no sense now! (edit - especially when Mayweather is classed as a super champion and hasn't followed those rules)

[iron mike tyson]

so ward has 18 months to fight froch or vacate

[MikeRo1972]

Belts mean sh't including the Ring belt.