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  • New England
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    #31
    Originally posted by The Surgeon
    Over here we have Scotland, Wales, Ireland and England. Pit fighters from these nations against each other and each nation gets behind their fighter. Bring a Yank over to fight any of them and all the others would back the UK fighter. Im sure its similar over in the states, Ward may not be from Atlantic City but he is American and most Americans would support him over a foreign fighter coming from across the pond im sure


    it isn't homie. nationality doesn't matter as much when you have imported fighters coming to your country to fight uniformly. outside of HW and CW you aspire to fight in las vegas.

    was manny pacquiao american? miguel cotto? tito trinidad? julio cesar chavez [sr]? the list goes on.

    nationality matters much less to american fight fans. american fight fans and causuals evaluate/support fighters based on ability and more importantly "star power" i know some don't like to hear that, but it's the truth.

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      #32
      Originally posted by revs1227
      um no ...i was at the fight

      ward had the advantage
      it was in america

      rematch should be in montreal

      what advantage?
      travel is literally the end of it. froch had to travel further.


      a bad scorecard that almost made it an SD, even though he completely outclassed froch?


      what advantage did ward have over froch by virtue of the fight being in AC? and do you think that was the difference in the fight?

      they could fight on the moon. froch is going to get outboxed by a much faster fighter with better defense.

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      • SoulByThePound
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        #33
        Originally posted by Freedom.
        Ward always had home country advantage.

        Oakland and Atlantic City are both in the USA, just like Nottingham and London are both in the UK.

        To say Atlantic City was a neutral location because it wasn't Ward's hometown is the equivalent of saying London would be a neutral location for a rematch since it's not Froch's hometown.
        lmao there is no such thing as home country advantage for american fighters since fight fans are fans of ethnicity and national origin

        look at trout vs canelo...canelo from mexico had way more if not all the fans in the arena whom are mexican-americans how often do mexican nationals travel to the US to watch there natioinal fighters i mean we wouldn't be able to tell anyway??

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          #34
          At the end of the day, the fight was held in America, Andre Ward's home country.

          Froch is from is from the UK. It's a fair proposal that Ward comes to the UK if they have a rematch is it not?

          Especially since Froch is a unified champion holding two of the divisions titles, whereas Ward has none. I am we'll aware he is the 'lineal champion' of the division, but shouldn't a true champion fight around the world to prove his mettle, like Froch has done quite frequently over the last few years.

          Financially, it would make more sense to stage the proposed rematch in the UK in my opinion.

          And yes, fighting in your home country does have advantages, and not just in scoring and refereeing. Lots of things can be detrimental to a fighters preparation during the build up to a fight. Hometown advantages refer to more than just the officiating.

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          • SoulByThePound
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            #35
            Originally posted by New England
            it isn't homie. nationality doesn't matter as much when you have imported fighters coming to your country to fight uniformly. outside of HW and CW you aspire to fight in las vegas.

            was manny pacquiao american? miguel cotto? tito trinidad? julio cesar chavez [sr]? the list goes on.

            nationality matters much less to american fight fans. american fight fans and causuals evaluate/support fighters based on ability and more importantly "star power" i know some don't like to hear that, but it's the truth.
            those fighters you name are backed by their people who live in the states with tag along american fans
            there aren't any pro american fans and this is why american boxers say what they say that hey have no support..

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              #36
              Originally posted by Freedom.
              Ward always had home country advantage.

              Oakland and Atlantic City are both in the USA, just like Nottingham and London are both in the UK.

              To say Atlantic City was a neutral location because it wasn't Ward's hometown is the equivalent of saying London would be a neutral location for a rematch since it's not Froch's hometown.
              true but thats not how fight fans in america think...

              lpete ve mathysse was not considered home ground for peterson
              khan when saying he wanted the lpete rematch out of DC to LV is IMO isnt neutral but home for LPETE but since american fight fans are funny like that it becomes a road fight for the american......... assbackwards

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              • NEETzsche
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                #37
                froch just wants to rob ward.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by New England
                  california and new jersey are 3000 miles away from each other. they're on the coast of different oceans. ward was not fighting "at home" when he went to atlantic city.
                  Your unconditional support for Ward because he's an American proves he was indeed fighting at home.

                  East coasters like yourself don't care that he's from the West coast, you support him because he's an American like yourself!

                  God Bless America!

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Freedom.
                    Your unconditional support for Ward because he's an American proves he was indeed fighting at home.

                    East coasters like yourself don't care that he's from the West coast, you support him because he's an American like yourself!

                    God Bless America!


                    i have been ripping andre ward lately... i thought he acted like a jackass on hbo yesterday. i do think he should fight froch in the UK because i think the money is better.

                    read the posts instead of just looking at my avatar.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Freedom.
                      Your unconditional support for Ward because he's an American proves he was indeed fighting at home.

                      East coasters like yourself don't care that he's from the West coast, you support him because he's an American like yourself!

                      God Bless America!

                      hometown support, similar to the support cotto, tito, pacquiao got stateside.

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