Should There Be A SuperHeavyweight Division In Pro Boxing?

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  • Mr. Violence
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    Should There Be A SuperHeavyweight Division In Pro Boxing?

    I ask this question because of the emergence of the giants like Lennox Lewis and Vitali Klitchko...just to name a couple. The Heavyweight Division is the only division with a ridiculous weight discrepancy...where you'll actually see a guy being outweighed by 30 or EVEN MORE pounds(a good example Holyfield Vs. Lewis). You dont see this kind of size advantage in any other weight class. Isn't that just like if you took a Featherweight and put him up against a Cruiserweight or even a Heavyweight? Is this fair competition? Your thoughts on a SuperHeavyweight Division.
    Last edited by Mr. Violence; 01-13-2005, 11:27 PM.
  • Toller
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    It's not quite like that - when you get to a certain size it stops making such a big difference.
    Financially it wouldn't make sense for any of the decent smaller guys to remain at HW if there was a superheavyweight division, so they'd all want to move up anyway.

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    • trinidadpr87
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      #3
      Thats what makes the heavyweight division the best.well not right now.

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      • Eyeh8you
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        #4
        They have already made a "super" heavy division when the smaller heavies were moved to Cruiser!

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        • m00ks
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          #5
          Not enough competition. In any case, size don't have nothing on sweet science.

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          • Mr. Violence
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            #6
            Originally posted by Eyeh8you
            They have already made a "super" heavy division when the smaller heavies were moved to Cruiser!


            they only changed the limit for Cruiserweight to 200 lbs. from 190 lbs. That means it is still possible to see a fighter who weighs 205 against one that weighs 250 or more.

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            • Drunken Cat
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              #7
              Originally posted by johnny swift
              they only changed the limit for Cruiserweight to 200 lbs. from 190 lbs. That means it is still possible to see a fighter who weighs 205 against one that weighs 250 or more.
              yeah, but its still there choice to fight hw. If they wanted they could lose the 5 pounds and fight cruiser but they'd have to take a pay cut for it.

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              • oldgringo
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                #8
                Size means nothing at HW. Smaller heavies are almost always better anyway. 205-225 is like the prime size for any great heavyweight.

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                • tri4ben2
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                  Theoretically, a professional 150 pound fighter should beat a 140 pound fighter. I am not taking about your second teir fighters, I am taking about the champions. For example, I like Pac, but I don't think he could beat any of the top 5 140 pounders without putting on the 10 or so pounds.

                  After you get to a certain weight, it is difficult to continue to be as effective. Example De La Hoya- fantastic at 130-140, but slipped when he got heavier.

                  That is not true with heavies.

                  If there were 4 heavyweight classes, the best 220 pund fighter could easily say that he could beat the best 240 pound fighter.

                  For the heavyweight division, size only matters when you can use it to your advantage. Same with height. VK uses his height beautifully, but Grant doesn't.

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                  • tino
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                    #10
                    there has been talk about a superHW dvision but let s see some of the recent champs:

                    -john ruiz came from light heavy

                    -roy jones from MW

                    -chris byrd from MW

                    -holyfield was a LHW in the olympics

                    if you even look a possible title titleholders :

                    tua isnt that big

                    TYSON is a small HW

                    toney is small an a blown up SUPERMW.

                    when you pass the 200 pounds everybody hits hard ,size doents matter that much as olgringo and tri4ben2 pointed out.

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