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  • #21
    Originally posted by .:: JSFD26 ::. View Post
    If Floyd doesn't fight Canelo then his legacy will definitely be tarnished. That means he avoided Pac and Canelo. Both are the 2 biggest fights in boxing and the best two available opponents.


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    GTFO. The Pacquiao fight is/was the only fight that will tarnish Floyd's legacy. Who the **** is Canelo and what has he done in the sport?

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    • #22
      Showtime made it clear that they want Canelo for Floyd's next fight. I believe Haymon and Schaefer are working feverishly to make this fight happen. September is just a few months away. Guess who's making things difficult? Floyd. Canelo camp is not backing down with their terms. I don't think it's about the weight. It's about the money.

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      • #23
        Whenever on the subject of Floyd, people are always worried Floyd will be too scared to fight challenges boxing fans deem worthy. That does Floyds legacy no favours whatsoever.

        People thought Floyd would be too scared of hatton, even though he nearly lost to Collazo. THought he would be too scared of even old man 5 loss SSM. These opponents arent really great, but people still worry Floyd will be too scared. Peoplethought he was scared of Pac and Foiyd gave ammunitio to the strongly held belief he was terrified of Pac and now canelo.

        Floyd musst be one of the least brave champs in history according to the average boxing fan.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by THE_FORKLIFT View Post
          Fighting Canelo later can be a double edge sword for Mayweather.
          Why? Think about this:
          The more Canelo fights he gets more seasoned and we have seen it.
          When Canelo fought Trout he learned alot and gained confidence.
          Lets say Floyd Waits, and Canelo fights Cotto.

          Im pretty sure Canelo beats Cotto based on his power but I am also sure he will learn alot and gain more confidence.

          So is it better to fight Canelo now when he is limited or wait (but he can become a better fighter).

          Or not fight him and continue with the tag that he never fights the better opposition.
          let's just admit it... Cherrypicker won't fight the Ginger... if he won't fight him now, he ain't gonna fight him later

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          • #25
            Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
            Whenever on the subject of Floyd, people are always worried Floyd will be too scared to fight challenges boxing fans deem worthy. That does Floyds legacy no favours whatsoever.

            People thought Floyd would be too scared of hatton, even though he nearly lost to Collazo. THought he would be too scared of even old man 5 loss SSM. These opponents arent really great, but people still worry Floyd will be too scared. Peoplethought he was scared of Pac and Foiyd gave ammunitio to the strongly held belief he was terrified of Pac and now canelo.

            Floyd musst be one of the least brave champs in history according to the average boxing fan.
            he ducked a prime Marg, prime Cotto, prime Pac, prime Casamayor, etc... he'll have the legacy of a ducker

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            • #26
              To all of the people saying Floyd won't fight Canelo; you're going to look like fools here in a few weeks. He was afraid of Mosley and Cotto also...

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              • #27
                Originally posted by rayb112 View Post
                But it was ok for Manny to fight a (36) year old De La Hoya at 147 but a (22) year old Canola can't come down to 147...Why is that???
                Irrelevant comparison. Stick to only the current situation for Alvarez and Mayweather. Alvarez has not fought at 147 for a couple of years now. He fights in the 154 class. Due to the way the weigh-ins work he has time to put on weight and come in quite heavier come fight night. That's on him. It could be a positive (supposed increase in power with an increase in weight) or it could be detrimental (slowing down and stamina issues due to the shock weight increase at fight night).
                Either way, Alvarez is not a current fighter at 147 nor does he hold a title in that weight class.

                As for Mayweather, he still holds a title at 154 and is a recognized champion in that weight class. He should fight in that weight class as well or relinquish the belt and leave it at that. No one would blame him. However, it appears that team wants their cake and want to eat it too. If you are a champ in 154, you fight in 154 or give up the title. It's not rocket science.

                Hate to draw comparisons, but even Pacquiao realized he was too small for that weight class and stayed away from it after Margarito. Nobody blinked at him doing that either.

                To quote a well known Mayweather phrase, and one that is typically used for overmatched opponents...'Skills pay the bills.' In this matchup I truly believe that. I think the greater weight will slow down Alvarez and leave him open for a boxing clinic. It won't be easy, and yes, Floyd will be punished, whether he shows it or not. Alvarez will be heavier and hit harder, but his stamina and slightly slower speed will be his detriment.
                Because of this I think they're somewhat evenly matched at 154. All advantages are Floyd's at 147. This is why, I believe, the money team don't want anything to do with Canelo at 154.

                Hopefully the fight happens, but I wouldn't be too surprised if it didn't. I just don't see a reason for Floyd to have the 154 Champ accolades sans the challenge of another 154 champ.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by jimboinbigd View Post
                  He was afraid of Mosley and Cotto also...
                  yep... the prime versions of mosley and cotto... cherrypicker retired rather than fight the prime versions

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by retnuocllup View Post
                    yep... the prime versions of mosley and cotto... cherrypicker retired rather than fight the prime versions

                    Arum protected Cotto and Shane ducked Floyd back in the day then Floyd handpicked Mosley after the Pac fight fell apart. Yeah, Mosley, the guy Pac and Roach ducked and the same guy that busted up Margarito which was one of Mosley's greatest fights when Floyd picked him.

                    Save it. I'm not one of these idiots you can spin your BS on. Floyd would have beat Shane, Cotto, and Margarito in their primes also. Floyd haters have to use mythical and hypothetical fights or scenarios to make their points because all of the real fights end in lopsided victories, time after time after time after time...

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