which is the more impressive feat:by Pacquiao or Mayweather jr?

[Phenom]

Yeah, but styles make fights, and Raheem had the style to beat Morales. Whereas that doesn't diminish the Pac wins, because Pac and Morales' style mesh to make for entertaining fights. It's like Peterson vs. Matthysse. Matthysse beats Peterson 9/10. It's engrained in Peterson's mentality to fight a certain way, once it starts getting heated in the ring.

how about Morales losing 5 out of 6 fights and his only win being against Pacquiao does that maybe tell you where he was at in his career ?

[DLT]

Yeah, but styles make fights, and Raheem had the style to beat Morales. Whereas that doesn't diminish the Pac wins, because Pac and Morales' style mesh to make for entertaining fights. It's like Peterson vs. Matthysse. Matthysse beats Peterson 9/10. It's engrained in Peterson's mentality to fight a certain way, once it starts getting heated in the ring.

nah, there is a difference between styles and a HOF fighter getting dominated by an average guy, slick or not. He shut him out and he's been garbage ever since. Before that fight I dont see EM losing to Raheem at all and at the least there is no way he gets shut out. Once that happens then you know he's seen his better days, atleast on the elite level.

I could give Pac a pass for fighting him because he did just lose to him but he shouldnt have gotten a ton of credit for the win. Everyone went crazy like Pac was the greatest when no one even cared when Raheem beat hm. What I wont give Pac a pass for is fighting him that 3rd time right after and again people went even crazier. It made no sene to me.

[Cinci Champ]

hes gonna forget the fact that Floyd mayweather almost lost(and barely) beat oscar de la hoya, Floyds dad was crying at the end of the fight, lol, he was ashamed of how horrible floyd looked against a fat and old oscar

and your gonna forget fact that pac lost to an old ass marquez twice in a row atleast and also got beaten by morales the first time they fought i still dont get the point of this thread tho i guess its only way pac can win against floyd lol.

[Tha_Greatest]

corraless is floyds best win for f@kk sake ....this is a mismatch ...pac hands down ..

at 130 that was his greatest win and to this day that win remains his biggest win, lol, corrales was good but at the end he never did anything to be merited as a legend, floyd fans overate that sorry win cause floyds resume was weaker than it shouldave been, lol,


dlt is a pac fan as much as im a dilusional floyd fan, that guy is a basehead just like me, true ****in story

[Cinci Champ]

whats more shocking/impressive the fact manny was so great on roids or that manny has been not nearly as good since floyd called him out on it?

[BUNGALOWS]

nah, there is a difference between styles and a HOF fighter getting dominated by an average guy, slick or not. He shut him out and he's been garbage ever since. Before that fight I dont see EM losing to Raheem at all and at the least there is no way he gets shut out. Once that happens then you know he's seen his better days, atleast on the elite level.

I could give Pac a pass for fighting him because he did just lose to him but he shouldnt have gotten a ton of credit for the win. Everyone went crazy like Pac was the greatest when no one even cared when Raheem beat hm. What I wont give Pac a pass for is fighting him that 3rd time right after and again people went even crazier. It made no sene to me.

I know Morales wasn't the same, but it was still a good win. I remember at the time, the way Manny finished him off, you could tell he lost a step, but the "revenge" storyline kind of clouded people's judgments.

Overall, I'd agree that EM wasn't the same.

[T18Z]

and your gonna forget fact that pac lost to an old ass marquez twice in a row atleast and also got beaten by morales the first time they fought i still dont get the point of this thread tho i guess its only way pac can win against floyd lol.

Pacquaio hasn't lost twice to Marquez, but cool story bro. You wanna keep sucking Floyd off more or what? I see you also claiming hes on steroids too, damn you are making yourself look ******.

The point of the thread was to compare an achievement objectively, that too hard for you I guess.

[Tha_Greatest]

and your gonna forget fact that pac lost to an old ass marquez twice in a row atleast and also got beaten by morales the first time they fought i still dont get the point of this thread tho i guess its only way pac can win against floyd lol.

i actually thought pac man lost all the marquez fights, that said, i know floyd lost to castillo and got embarassed by a fat version of de la hoya, lol, floyd even dukked the rematch with a fat de la hoya, dlt is dilusional

[Cinci Champ]

Pacquaio hasn't lost twice to Marquez, but cool story bro. You wanna keep sucking Floyd off more or what?

The point of the thread was to compare an achievement objectively, that so hard?

ok if were gonna take that route then he really did lose to bradley

[megas30]

I think Floyd's is. Morales beat Pac when they were both on top. Pac argubaly didnt beat EM until he had become washed up. I still dont know how people let him get away with those fights.

He fights him coming off of a near shutout by Raheem and gets ton of credit for it like the Raheem fight never happened. Not only that but they actually allow him to fight him a 3rd time after EM is shutout by Raheem and KO by Pac. He then gets mad credit for it again. How is that allowed? He also got KTFO by JMM.

Is everyone just going to erase those facts? That 2nd MAB win wasnt special either. The only great wins out that group was the 1st MAB win and the JMM fights but again, he got KTFO by JMM in the end

MAB had a damn metal plate in his head if i can remember. Someone correct me if i am wrong. It was almost like a Joe Mesi situation leading up that Barrera vs Pac fight.