Pac-Morales 2: Whose loss would be more devastating to their career?

[JMCbulls]

either


1.pac loses, career is forever slightly less great for his 2 losses to morales
2. morales loses, j/ came of an ass-beating, and ppl will think hes gone and "sucks" now

niehter cna afford a loss

[bumboclott]

It's more of HOW bad the loss is? If it was a close competitive fight, I don't think it would harm either fighter that much in terms of reputation. But if it was a pure @ss kickin' then the burden falls on Erika, 'cause he would literally have gotten his @ss kicked 3 straight times as some have already pointed out.

I agree. Only a one sided beating would be devastating to their careers.

[LS-Injection]

JMC i have to agree, neither can lose but one is going to and it's going to be Morales…

[JMCbulls]

agreed^^^go pac

[ELPacman]

Let's first know 1 thing. A rematch clause was put into the contract for this rematch. So Erik will undoubtly get a 3rd shot at Manny should he lose, and who knows, maybe Erik doesn't wanna go through another fight with Manny as he may get "tired" of him as he did with Barrera. Then again, should Morales lose, I don't think he'll have very many options other than taking the 3rd fight with Manny to redeem himself. Should Manny lose, as everyone has said, he has more options. JMM at 126lbs(I doubt though that he'll want to go back down to that weight), and with Barrera, should Barrera stop running stories and this and that about when he should face Manny, and just face him already. My predictions for the fight are like this, if Manny wins, it will most likely be from a very hard close fought war because he can't outbox Morales, nor can he go into a jabbing contest with him. If Morales wins, it'll most likely be a repeat from the first fight with little disparity on the decision. I really don't think either will get KOed though if I had to choose someone, it would be Morales. After watching that vid on maxboxing, one wonders, who the hell can keep up with the speed or power Manny is displaying now?!

[ReadyUp]

If Morales wins, I highly doubt a Barrera/Pac rematch ever comes off.

You have to understand. These two try to out-do each other and every occasion. And if Morales beats Pac again, in Barrera's mind, it's Morales leftovers even though Pac defeated him years ago. And Barrera looks elsewhere, either to Morales or up a class to do what Morales couldn't. Win a title at 135.

[grayfist]

You may have some points, but keep in mind that Nelson had faced bigger opposition than Pacquiao has. Another thing to consider is that today's featherweight division is not seen as a strong one. Only Pacquiao, JMM, and Scott Harrison are important figures. I am not saying that Pacquiao won't be in the HOF, but to have a strong claim, he needs to beat most, if not all of today's big names.

In general terms, yes, at Feather, The Prof faced better opposition than Pac has had, what with Gomez, Sanchez et al, in there. But also there are names like Mauro Guttierez, Jim McDonnel, Mario Martinez...who have heard about them after their meetings with Nelson?

At Jr. Light, Leija cannot be said to be at par with an Erik Morales. And, Nelson, great as he was, only managed one win against Jesse Jaimes, and the latter is not even in the Hall. On the other hand, Erik has pretty good chances of being an enshrinee, even with that loss to Raheem.

So, the way I see it, two losses by Pacquiao to Morales (if that happens), in and by itself, cannot derail Pacquiao's train in chugging toward that famed town in NY state. This is not saying that Pac's train's progress is inexorable. He still has to punch his ticket a few times more.

The other point I am making is that whatever the outcome of the bout on the 21st may be, it shall not be the end of either protagonist's career. They'll be seen in some years to come, yet--although, perhaps, due to his being older and having done more in his career, Erik's years may be fewer than Pac's.

Manny, IF he loses, can go back to Featherweight, the division that, most experts opine, is where he's at his best. There's no ignominy in that; not in my eyes. Nelson, after trying and having been beaten by Pernell at Lightweight, went back down to Jr. Light without missing a step. No one I know begrudged/begrudges Nelson.

Most of the great Light Heavies who dominated their division failed when they tried go up to Heavy. For example, Bob Foster. He cannot be less great because he failed to win any Heavyweight crown ( his try at Ali was for the NABF, not the "World" crown and he lost, KO8; his failed bid vs. Frazier--2nd round KO-- was for both the WBA and WBC crowns) and even failed in at least two non-title Heavyweight fights (vs. Zorah Folley and Ernie Terrell), and, as far as I recall, won only one Heavyweight fight--vs. Sonny Moore. Foster is in majority of the All-Time Greatest LightHeavies lists.

Oh, well, just my thoughts...

[!! AI-Holmes!!]

Morales cannot afford to lose two in a row, it just depends how he loses tho, some fighters can look good while still losing the fight.