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  • Originally posted by ColdCa$hCanelo View Post
    Thats all I read because you're obviously wrong.


    Floyd hit the ww division in 06. Margarito at the time was the divisions longest reigning beltholder, whose only loss since 1996, was to Daniel Santos, in 2004. So, no. When Floyd hit the welterweight division, Margarito wasn't coming off of losses to anyone. Floyd fought Baldomir instead of Tony in November and Tony fought Clottey in December. Again, Floyd chose to duck Margarito in 07 and fought DLH in May. It wasn't until July of that year, that Tony lost to Paul.


    If you're going to talk boxing, know what you're talking about first.
    OK son, let's talk titles and their lineages. Floyd fought Baldomir for a title he won from Judah, who won it from Spinks, who won it from Mayorga, who won it from Forrest, who won it from Mosley, who won it for DLH. As for your lil Margarito, the belt he was holding he won again Antonio Diaz, vacant. I know you're not all that bright. But which of those title lineages reflects what was considered "the class" of the welterweight division?

    BTW, "chose to duck Margartio and fought DLH.". Please,everyone from flyweight to heavyweight wanted a piece of DLH because he was the biggest payday in the sport. Stop the foolishness.

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    • Originally posted by hitking View Post
      OK son, let's talk titles and their lineages. Floyd fought Baldomir for a title he won from Judah, who won it from Spinks, who won it from Mayorga, who won it from Forrest, who won it from Mosley, who won it for DLH. As for your lil Margarito, the belt he was holding he won again Antonio Diaz, vacant. I know you're not all that bright. But which of those title lineages reflects what was considered "the class" of the welterweight division?

      BTW, "chose to duck Margartio and fought DLH.". Please,everyone from flyweight to heavyweight wanted a piece of DLH because he was the biggest payday in the sport. Stop the foolishness.
      and yet, he could have fought him after DLH. But guess what? He chose to "retire" instead. Everyone pretty much agrees because there was going to be tremendous pressure to face the winner of Margarito/Cotto.

      btw, just like Floyd avoided Margarito, so did everyone of those guys you named. It doesn't mean Margarito wasn't a part of that "class". Just means they didn't want to face a tall, rangy, determined, continuous throwing puncher with endless stamina and a great chin. Whether the title was vacant or not, he held a belt at the division longer than anyone in that time span.

      Lets be real, Forrest was supposed to just be a defense for Mosley. Then when Forrest won, Mayorga was supposed to be a defense for Forrest. Or are you really saying Ricardo Mayorga was considered to be in the upper echelon of welterweight fighters like the all time great Carlos Baldomir? I haven't even mentioned the hall of famers Judah and Spinks yet.

      :/

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      • Originally posted by ColdCa$hCanelo View Post
        cheating unproven
        you can't blame bob for everything, its old and tired
        post the link where manny says hes scared of needles. I'll bet my account vs yours.
        Margarito - cheating was unproven? Then why was he suspended when he had PLASTER in his wraps for his fight w/Shane?

        You've have proven yourself the weakest link - no need for dialogue with you anymore - G'Bye!

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        • Originally posted by ColdCa$hCanelo View Post
          and yet, he could have fought him after DLH. But guess what? He chose to "retire" instead. Everyone pretty much agrees because there was going to be tremendous pressure to face the winner of Margarito/Cotto.

          btw, just like Floyd avoided Margarito, so did everyone of those guys you named. It doesn't mean Margarito wasn't a part of that "class". Just means they didn't want to face a tall, rangy, determined, continuous throwing puncher with endless stamina and a great chin. Whether the title was vacant or not, he held a belt at the division longer than anyone in that time span.

          Lets be real, Forrest was supposed to just be a defense for Mosley. Then when Forrest won, Mayorga was supposed to be a defense for Forrest. Or are you really saying Ricardo Mayorga was considered to be in the upper echelon of welterweight fighters like the all time great Carlos Baldomir? I haven't even mentioned the hall of famers Judah and Spinks yet.

          :/
          Actually, Floyd fought Hatton after DLH. If you get you fact straight, Margarito got his ass kicked by Paul Williams a month or two after Floyd fought DLH. Are you suggesting that Floyd should have fought Margarito, coming off a loss, opposed to Hatton, who was undefeated and on every credible P4P list at the time?

          As for Forrest being, "just a defense" for Mosley, you just showed your lack of boxing knowledge. For had a tremendous amateur career. One in which he had beaten Mosley, which is what kept Mosley off the Olympic team. He was an undefeated beltholder (he vacated his belt in order to fight Mosley) who simply hadn't been given a shot at the likes of DLH, Tito, or Mosley. Far from a no hoper my dude.

          As for the legitimacy of the title Mayweather won from Baldomir compared to the trinket Margarito was holding. If you think Margarito was anything more than a paper champion, compared to the lineage of Baldy's belt, again, you know nothing about boxing. Just because you like Margarito more doesn't erase facts buddy. And believe me, I'm gonna call you on all your bull**** so bring it on.

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          • Originally posted by hitking View Post
            Actually, Floyd fought Hatton after DLH. If you get you fact straight, Margarito got his ass kicked by Paul Williams a month or two after Floyd fought DLH. Are you suggesting that Floyd should have fought Margarito, coming off a loss, opposed to Hatton, who was undefeated and on every credible P4P list at the time?

            As for Forrest being, "just a defense" for Mosley, you just showed your lack of boxing knowledge. For had a tremendous amateur career. One in which he had beaten Mosley, which is what kept Mosley off the Olympic team. He was an undefeated beltholder (he vacated his belt in order to fight Mosley) who simply hadn't been given a shot at the likes of DLH, Tito, or Mosley. Far from a no hoper my dude.

            As for the legitimacy of the title Mayweather won from Baldomir compared to the trinket Margarito was holding. If you think Margarito was anything more than a paper champion, compared to the lineage of Baldy's belt, again, you know nothing about boxing. Just because you like Margarito more doesn't erase facts buddy. And believe me, I'm gonna call you on all your bull**** so bring it on.
            Don't waste your time, unless you have time to kill (LOL) on this troll........

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            • Originally posted by MASTER1454 View Post
              Don't waste your time, unless you have time to kill (LOL) on this troll........
              I'm definitely bored, and defintely having fun making this cat look ******. Not that he isn't doing a pretty good job of that on his own.

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              • Originally posted by MASTER1454 View Post
                Margarito - cheating was unproven? Then why was he suspended when he had PLASTER in his wraps for his fight w/Shane?

                You've have proven yourself the weakest link - no need for dialogue with you anymore - G'Bye!
                If he had plaster, why wasn't he suspended for life like Resto?

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                • Originally posted by NEELZ View Post
                  I watched the Guerrero fight a few times now and Mayweather's performance is being greatly overrated. His reputation has inflated what he did. He actually landed very few punches. He did run. He appeared to be afraid of Guerrero. He never hurt Guerrero at all. The 8th round was the only round Guerrero took a backwards step, He was a little stung by a sweeping right but to call him hurt or on verge of going down, if only
                  Floyd stepped up the pressure then, is ludicrous.

                  People adore Floyd and are so invested in his man worship that they call a so-so performance like that sheer greatness. It was not at all.
                  Actually, Floyd started walking Ghost down in the 5th round. And what made the performance so great, is that based off the Cotto fight, Ghost was supposed to cause some problems. Ghost is not a bad fighter, by any means necessary. People thought he was a pressure-swarmer, but he's actually a tactical boxer with a great jab, and does a good job at using his height and reach advantage. In order for Floyd to do decent, he would need footwork.

                  We havent seen Floyd use the type of footworking abilities he displayed a few weeks back, since he was at lw. I think the shock of him being so light on his feet, made the performance that much better.

                  And I am probably one of the only ones who will say that Ghost was timing Floyd in the later rounds. He was making adjustments, and he has always been good at making adjustments. But I think Floyd was shocked by how much bigger and taller than him, Ghost was. He probably decided to move around, in the 3rd round. And he was getting tagged in the later rounds because he wasnt prepared to fight a guy that big. Boxrec list him as the same size as Floyd. So does tail of the tape. But if you listen to these incorrect sources, they can cost you a "W". Either way, I was impressed.

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                  • Isn't this the same guy that had a nervous breakdown accusing Lucas of taking PEDs, and then his fighter got KTFO??

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                    • Originally posted by hitking View Post
                      Actually, Floyd fought Hatton after DLH. If you get you fact straight, Margarito got his ass kicked by Paul Williams a month or two after Floyd fought DLH. Are you suggesting that Floyd should have fought Margarito, coming off a loss, opposed to Hatton, who was undefeated and on every credible P4P list at the time?

                      As for Forrest being, "just a defense" for Mosley, you just showed your lack of boxing knowledge. For had a tremendous amateur career. One in which he had beaten Mosley, which is what kept Mosley off the Olympic team. He was an undefeated beltholder (he vacated his belt in order to fight Mosley) who simply hadn't been given a shot at the likes of DLH, Tito, or Mosley. Far from a no hoper my dude.

                      As for the legitimacy of the title Mayweather won from Baldomir compared to the trinket Margarito was holding. If you think Margarito was anything more than a paper champion, compared to the lineage of Baldy's belt, again, you know nothing about boxing. Just because you like Margarito more doesn't erase facts buddy. And believe me, I'm gonna call you on all your bull**** so bring it on.
                      Floyd -"belts just collect dust".

                      So now, suddenly "the belt" means something? Please, we've been over this millions of times. Floyd ducked Tony. End of story. No matter how many ways you try to defend him doing it, he did it. Even his biggest fans will say so.


                      Lol "he fought Hatton though". Hatton, the guy who looked like ass and got beat by Collazo at 147. Just another perfect example of Floyd picking and choosing who to fight where so long as it benefits him and him only .


                      Forrest, got beat twice by Mayorga. lol....so much for that stellar amateur career eh?


                      another lol, "Paul beat Tonys ass". Uh, no, he won a close decision. But carry on. We need another M.I.C. around here.

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