Who is harder to beat right now? Floyd or Wlad?

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  • titanium
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    #21
    Depends on who they fight.

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    • LacedUp
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      #22
      Originally posted by Dominicano Soy
      Wlad has far improved since some of those struggles, but I'm going based off of the illegal moves Wlad is able to get away with, like holding his left hand out. Haye, in my opinion was the only fighter who had the tools to beat Wlad and we saw how that ended, I don't think anyone else challenges him. Wach also tested positive for steroids by the way.
      Of course he has, i'm not claiming otherwise. But he has been beat, and he does get hit. With heavyweights, you know, see what happened with Lewis - Rahman I. Anything can happen, WW is just different. I don't really think so either, but looking at fighters like Price, Fury, Wilder who are just as big or bigger than Wlad and do have power. If they manage to land on Wlad, you never know what's going to happen. I'm not even giving either of them a punchers chance at this moment in time, but it's still a bigger chance than I would give any of the current WWs to beat Mayweather. Unless Manny turns the clock back 5 years, I just don't see anyone beating Floyd at all.

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        #23
        Originally posted by titanium
        Depends on who they fight.
        Floyd because who he fights is always bigger than him. If Vlad was fighting fighters taller than him he'd lose

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          #24
          Originally posted by Simurgh
          Even a very small chance is still a chance.

          And Floyd hasn't really fought the second best in his division yet. I think he beats him, but still...

          Wlad beat them all. He is now waiting for the new group of good unbeaten fighters to accumulate.
          Well Wlad hasn't fought the second best in his division either? So it's really the same. Well, he beat them all from the last era, Chagaev, Ibragimov, Peter etc. But at this moment in time, the top 10 is filled up with fighters who Wlad hasn't fought. He really only beat Haye and arguably TT if you count him in the current top 10. But that's very much the same for Floyd. He beat Marquez, Guerrero and Ortiz if you count him, but that's it. So it's very very equal-

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            #25
            Originally posted by LacedUp
            Wlad was rocked against Wach, and was buckled by Haye. He was down three times against Peter, knocked out vs Sanders, Brewster and Purrity. I know this is reaching a bit, but Floyd never had any of that. Maybe for 1 round against Mosley, but that's it.

            It's extremely close, but Floyd has his record to show for it, Wlad doesn't.
            To be fair I always thought Judah was the first and so far the only man who knocked Floyd down. He touched the canvas after punch from Judah in round 2 if I remember correctly.

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            • LacedUp
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              #26
              Originally posted by Szef99
              To be fair I always thought Judah was the first and so far the only man who knocked Floyd down. He touched the canvas after punch from Judah in round 2 if I remember correctly.
              I'm not sure if that was KD or not, I really don't count it as one. But Judah def gave Floyd a good fight!

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                #27
                Originally posted by Simurgh
                Wlad is in his prime, Floyd is not.

                That's why I would go with Wlad, but in HW it's more likely that one punch turns things around.

                And there are fighters who would be favorites against Floyd (GGG or even old Martinez), there are none against Wlad.
                Floyd's prime is seemingly everlasting. We thought he was aging in his last fight. We been talking about his diminished footwork since the Mosley fight. In his last fight, he fought like he did against Genero Hernandez. Wlad has already lost.
                Last edited by MurkaMan; 05-17-2013, 05:10 AM.

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                • The_Demon
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                  #28
                  Floyd is much harder to beat,he has a good chin and an inside game

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by LacedUp
                    Well Wlad hasn't fought the second best in his division either? So it's really the same. Well, he beat them all from the last era, Chagaev, Ibragimov, Peter etc. But at this moment in time, the top 10 is filled up with fighters who Wlad hasn't fought. He really only beat Haye and arguably TT if you count him in the current top 10. But that's very much the same for Floyd. He beat Marquez, Guerrero and Ortiz if you count him, but that's it. So it's very very equal-
                    I agree with this. I am thinking the same.
                    If I dont count ggg or martinez floyd is the obvious choice.

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                    • Simurgh
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by MurkaMan
                      Floyd's prime is seemingly everlasting. We thought he was aging in his last fight. We been talking about his diminished footwork since the Mosley fight. In his last fight, he fought like he did against Genero Hernandez. Wlad has already lost.
                      floyd was a bit better a few years ago, but he is still a remarkable fighter.
                      wlad was never better. So unless he still is still imrpoving he is in his prime. banks and manny said the same..

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