Who is harder to beat right now? Floyd or Wlad?

[LacedUp]

A simpler way to put it, Ortiz, Guerrero (For a decent portion) and Cotto had Mayweather right where they wanted him, it's the fact that they couldn't capitalize, if you can put Wlad against the ropes, that in itself is a rarity, add in that state in which the HW division is in and you have your answer.

Wlad was rocked against Wach, and was buckled by Haye. He was down three times against Peter, knocked out vs Sanders, Brewster and Purrity. I know this is reaching a bit, but Floyd never had any of that. Maybe for 1 round against Mosley, but that's it.

It's extremely close, but Floyd has his record to show for it, Wlad doesn't.

[LELBRON]

Wlad is in his prime, Floyd is not.

That's why I would go with Wlad, but in HW it's more likely that one punch turns things around.

And there are fighters who would be favorites against Floyd (GGG or even old Martinez), there are none against Wlad.

Actually, he isn't. Fighting shit opposition has largely masked how past it he really is. Wlad isn't no where near as fast, sharp, accurate, strong or explosive as was in say the early 2000's.

And to TS's question, i would have to go with the guy that has never been stretched by a fat 40 year old golfer. Wlad is still hiding some of the finest china the Ukraine has to offer under that beard. He fights the right opponent or cherry picks the wrong opponent he going NIGHT NIGHT again.

One flush Wilder or Helenius right lands on that delicate china (like feather fisted Wach did) and Wlad is going...

[LacedUp]

GGG said he can fight at 154lb, or Martinez-Floyd was rumored for some time.
I doubt that either of these would ever happen but...
My point is that there is no boxer on the planet who would be favorite against Wlad, not true for Floyd.

If you count only Welterweights then it's probably Floyd as it's more likely one punch affects the outcome of fight in HW.

Of course it was rumored. Sergio would get his biggest payday, and also because they keep finding heavier guys to challenge Floyd. In reality, Floyd could probably still make 135 or 140. And they want him to fight someone weighing 160 at the scales and 170+ on fight night.

I don't know. They are both the two most dominant champions in all of boxing, perhaps with Andre Ward also. I suspect none will lose for the rest of their careers unless they fight for too long, as unfortunately most do.

[atomicsad]

There are no powerful punchers in the heavyweight division that Wlad will fight and Mayweather will not face any dangerous fighters so I say it's even.

[Doctor_Tenma]

Wlad was rocked against Wach, and was buckled by Haye. He was down three times against Peter, knocked out vs Sanders, Brewster and Purrity. I know this is reaching a bit, but Floyd never had any of that. Maybe for 1 round against Mosley, but that's it.

It's extremely close, but Floyd has his record to show for it, Wlad doesn't.

Wlad has far improved since some of those struggles, but I'm going based off of the illegal moves Wlad is able to get away with, like holding his left hand out. Haye, in my opinion was the only fighter who had the tools to beat Wlad and we saw how that ended, I don't think anyone else challenges him. Wach also tested positive for steroids by the way.

[Simurgh]

Actually, he isn't. Fighting shit opposition has largely masked how past it he really is. Wlad isn't no where near as fast, sharp, accurate, strong or explosive as was in say the early 2000's.

And to TS's question, i would have to go with the guy that has never been stretched by a fat 40 year old golfer. Wlad is still hiding some of the finest china the Ukraine has to offer under that beard. He fights the right opponent or cherry picks the wrong opponent he going NIGHT NIGHT again.

One flush Wilder or Helenius right lands on that delicate china (like feather fisted Wach did) and Wlad is going...

You lost me here, haven't read the rest...

[SweetScience]

Wlad can beat any boxer in the world....so Wlad

[Simurgh]

Of course it was rumored. Sergio would get his biggest payday, and also because they keep finding heavier guys to challenge Floyd. In reality, Floyd could probably still make 135 or 140. And they want him to fight someone weighing 160 at the scales and 170+ on fight night.

I don't know. They are both the two most dominant champions in all of boxing, perhaps with Andre Ward also. I suspect none will lose for the rest of their careers unless they fight for too long, as unfortunately most do.

Even a very small chance is still a chance.

And Floyd hasn't really fought the second best in his division yet. I think he beats him, but still...

Wlad beat them all. He is now waiting for the new group of good unbeaten fighters to accumulate.

[LELBRON]

You lost me here, haven't read the rest...

Watch his 1st fight with Chris Byrd & then watch the David Haye debacle back to back, And come back here and tell me with a straight face that the version of Wlad that fought Haye is a better, faster, stronger & more well rounded boxer than the one that fought Byrd. If you come to the conclusion that Haye version is superior that lets me know that you're either insane or don't have a clue what you're watching.

[Simurgh]

Watch his 1st fight with Chris Byrd & then watch the David Haye debacle back to back, And come back here and tell me with a straight face that the version of Wlad that fought Haye is a better, faster, stronger & more well rounded boxer than the one that fought Byrd. If you come to the conclusion that Haye version is superior that lets me know that you're either insane or don't have a clue what you're watching.

I don't need to watch anything (I've watched Wlad's more times you ever will).

No, Wlad is FAR superior fighter now than he was in 2000. That's common knowledge and I don't feel like spending time on this. You claiming otherwise just tells me whom I am talking with...