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Originally posted by Santino
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Why did Bloatshid hit me with bad karma?
I merely stated my opinion that Rocky should be in the top 10.Comment
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everybody should do the right thing like i did and put this little **** tyson jr on your ignore list.
i swear, that option works wonders...Comment
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Ok so you say Tyson is a better fighter than Holyfield. That's pretty ****sexual.
Holyfield's notable victories:
Michael Dokes
James Tillis
Dwight Qawi
Buster Douglas
George Foreman
Larry Holmes
Rid**** Bowe
Ray Mercer
Mike Tyson
Michael Moorer
right and keep in mind you will have alot of trouble making the case Tyson's record is better as a pro.
Top 5 Heavyweights of all time IMO.
1. Ali
2. Louis
3. Foreman
4. Holmes
5. Lewis
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Tyson is in the top 10 biggest waste of space of all time but top 10 heavyweights?Only unless every other heavyweight who has ever fought died besides Tyson and 9 clones of him.And take Jack Johnson off the freaking list.Who the hell did this guy every fight?Same with Joe Louis.Ducking other black fighters don't make you great or alot of other fighters would make the list.
Here is the list again in no particular order.
George Foreman.
Ali
A prime Bowe (sure his prime didn't last long but i am giving you the best fighters not the fighters who were great for along time or fighters who the media kiss up too)
Lennox Lewis
Ron Lyle (For those who believed Ali was past his prime when he 30 then the same goes for Lyle.He turned pro when he was about 28 so by the time he fought Ali,Foreman,Shavers,Young ect he was already in his 30's.And if he had the power to knock down a prime Foreman..Something Holyfield Morrison and all of the other top level fightes Foreman fought when he was 40 plus then you know he would have little trouble knocking out a guy like Joe Louis who again avoided every black fighter until the end of his career and neither of the 2 blacks he fought were over 190 and he lost to both of them.
Actually you really can't be a true boxing fan and have anybody else up here.Holmes neveer beat anybody worth mentioning besides robbing a past his prime Norton and Ali.Holyfield was good but again who did he really beat?He stuggled to beat Foreman and Holmes when they were over 40 he got a gift win over Bowe and then he beat Tyson like that proves something.4 other guys have knocked out Tyson so no big deal.Marciano is only a heavyweight in the eyes of racist white guys.180 pounds=not a heavweight but a cruiserweight or a light heavyweight.Joe Louis was great only in the eyes of white guys who feel sorry for blacks or racist black guys.Building up a record fighting nobodys and ducking black fighters who weren't even that good anyway doesn't make you great.
To be great you need to fight and beat other greats while they are still in their primes.You have to have a great chin.You can't get knocked out 5 times like Tyson has 4 by guys who weren't really big punchers or not really that good of a boxer.You had to have good attributes.Like Ali had a great jab and so did Foreman.Foreman was great a cutting off the ring.Ali was great at pulling away and avoiding most big punches.
You have to be able to punch.You don't have to have one punch ko power but you have to be able to stop other good fighters.Ali did Foreman did Lewis did.
Learn from me kiddies.Most of you have no clue what you are talking about.You get a fighter and you worship him like he is god.You believe he is great when reality he isn't.I am not biased.If you read what i typed before i am not a fan of Ali or Lewis but i know they were great.
Infact most of you are like this.Most of you aren't really that biased.Just the gay Tyson fans and the racits Marciano fans.Most of you other kids are cool.Comment
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Well....You are dead wrong about that.Originally posted by tommyhearns804
Ernie Shavers
Trevor Berbick
Leon Spinks
Renaldo Snipes
Gerry Cooney
Carl Williams
Ray Mercer
are all solid opponents.
None of the names I listed other than the ones you mentioned are worth noting? thats very strange.Holyfield was good but again who did he really beat?He stuggled to beat Foreman and Holmes when they were over 40 he got a gift win over Bowe and then he beat Tyson like that proves something.
Oh and Keep in mind Holyfield was a blow up cruiser and was fighting guys way bigger than himself.
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And how do you put people on ignore?Is there a way you can block a person so you can't see what a person post?Because i am really getting sick of ******s like Tyson Jr who come here and praise a *** like Tyson who is known for beating women,raping women,and getting knocked out.Comment
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click on his avatar, that ****** pic of tyson under his name, and you will see the option "Put Tyson jr on ur ignore list" in a blue bar.Originally posted by tommyhearns804Comment
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And how do you put people on ignore?Is there a way you can block a person so you can't see what a person post?Because i am really getting sick of ******s like Tyson Jr who come here and praise a *** like Tyson who is known for beating women,raping women,and getting knocked out.And let go on and add Holyfield he also beat Moorer,Mercer, and a couple of other good fighters.And their are a few more greats that i can't think of right now.Comment
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Sorry about that double post.My computer is a joke.I pressed sumit reply and nothing happened and then i pressed it again and it double posted but thanks for telling me how to ignore people.
And i am sure some people disagree with what i post.But i always give you why i believe what i do.And you never see me coming here and praising any fighter like they can't be beat.If you fight good fighters you will lose.
I am a huge Foreman fan but you don't see me making excuses about him losing to Ali or Young.The point is he lost.Tyson fans will give you all types of bullshyt reasons why he lost.Either he was to old or to young or some other lame excuse.The only difference is when Foreman lost he lost to to level fighters.No bum like Douglas schooled him and then knocked him out.Even when Foreman was almost 50 he didn't lose to some big piece of trash like Mcbride like Tyson did.
Like i said before about Marciano.There will always be one simpled minded racist white guy with no friends who can't grasp Marciano wasn't a heavyweight and never fought any other heavyweights period.So how can the hell he be a all time heavyweight great?It is like me saying since i am black and O'Neil Bell is black that Bell is a all time heavyweight great.Bell did beat Mormeck another good cruiserweight who was in his prime which is more than i can say about the 180 pound fighters Marciano fought.
But also like i said before this is the best boxing forum i have ever been apart of.99 percent of the whites here aren't racially biased at all if anything thing most of you seem to put down fighters of your own race.If you get rid of the maybe 5 gay Tyson fans and the 5 or so racist Marciano fans this forum would become even better.
You know what is funny?When you try to explain things to people in a way a child could understand but yet they are still to ****** to get it.One of these racist white guys in here actually said George Chuvalo is more skilled than Foreman.Well either you could say he is racist or is a complete imbicile.Other morons like him will tell you something like this.Foreman is slow.But yet turn around and say Marciano isn't slow.Foreman is about 50 pounds heavier than Marciano and alot faster than he was.I never seen Marciano throw a basic combo.And if he did how many did he throw against 220 plus pound black fighters?
I have seen people like Tyson Jr say Tyson had a better chin than Foreman.Well i guess that is why Tyson was knocked out 5 times because of his great chin.People like Tyson Jr have also posted that Tyson was the strongest heavyweight of all time.Again that is probably why Tyson was tied up more than any fighter that i have ever seen.
But anyway he is blocked now and i will block others like him so i can keep reading all of the other great post you smart boxing cans make.Comment
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