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  • The Comic DON
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    #21
    Originally posted by Light_Speed
    Comparing that fight to Chavez/Taylor and Leonard/Hearns is the most idiotic thing I've read in a while. Cong****.

    How so. Was Lenoard not being outboxed by Hearns in their first fight? Was Chavez not being out boxed by Taylor in their first fight? Did both men not comeback to win their fights when behind by many, many points. Maybe you can argue that Chelo isn't a Hearns or Taylor, but I never said Burns was a Lenoard or Chavez. They're just comparisons on similiar situations.

    The fact is all three men were outboxed but came from behind to win, based on the sole fact that they had more heart then their opponent. They'll pretty good examples of why you shouldn't say Burns was exposed when in fact he showed more in one fight then most boxers show their whole career, and that is ability to take punishment and will to win until the end.

    Ricky wasn't exposed he had a tough fight with a game opponent and got the victory.

    And please friend, next time leave your insults at the door because I know my boxing.

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    • wizard king
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      #22
      Originally posted by ComicDon
      How so. Was Lenoard not being outboxed by Hearns in their first fight? Was Chavez not being out boxed by Taylor in their first fight? Did both men not comeback to win their fights when behind by many, many points. Maybe you can argue that Chelo isn't a Hearns or Taylor, but I never said Burns was a Lenoard or Chavez. They're just comparisons on similiar situations.

      The fact is all three men were outboxed but came from behind to win, based on the sole fact that they had more heart then their opponent. They'll pretty good examples of why you shouldn't say Burns was exposed when in fact he showed more in one fight then most boxers show their whole career, and that is ability to take punishment and will to win until the end.

      Ricky wasn't exposed he had a tough fight with a game opponent and got the victory.

      And please friend, next time leave your insults at the door because I know my boxing.
      Dude just shut up Ricky bum got exposed by a prospect at that, stop making your self look foolish

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        #23
        Originally posted by ComicDon
        How so. Was Lenoard not being outboxed by Hearns in their first fight? Was Chavez not being out boxed by Taylor in their first fight? Did both men not comeback to win their fights when behind by many, many points. Maybe you can argue that Chelo isn't a Hearns or Taylor, but I never said Burns was a Lenoard or Chavez. They're just comparisons on similiar situations.

        The fact is all three men were outboxed but came from behind to win, based on the sole fact that they had more heart then their opponent. They'll pretty good examples of why you shouldn't say Burns was exposed when in fact he showed more in one fight then most boxers show their whole career, and that is ability to take punishment and will to win until the end.

        Ricky wasn't exposed he had a tough fight with a game opponent and got the victory.

        And please friend, next time leave your insults at the door because I know my boxing.
        Both Leonard and Chavez actually hurt their opponents with their punches, Burns still couldn't land anything clean when Gonzalez was injured. This comparison shouldn't even have crossed your mind, this was ****** as hell.

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          #24
          Originally posted by wizard king
          Dude just shut up Ricky bum got exposed by a prospect at that, stop making your self look foolish
          Actually since he fought for a title, he would be considered a contender. But what's wrong with having a little trouble with a prospect? He's unknown quality so you never know if he's the real deal until he fights world class fighters, but it's impossible to think that Chelo might just be a little better then you thought and easier to call Ricky a bum.

          But like I was saying, based on you descrpition of a bum fighter anyone who struggles with a contenderis a bum, so that would make 95% of boxers bums.

          I think it's more foolish to say a fighter is a bum because he had a hard time with a contender. It's boxing, **** happens but the end of the day he won. Just admit you don't like Ricky and that'll be a much better reason to discredit him.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Light_Speed
            Both Leonard and Chavez actually hurt their opponents with their punches, Burns still couldn't land anything clean when Gonzalez was injured. This comparison shouldn't even have crossed your mind, this was ****** as hell.
            He must have hurt him enough for him not to come out for the 10th round. I mean since when has a fighter just quit because they're winded.

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            • wizard king
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              #26
              Originally posted by ComicDon
              Actually since he fought for a title, he would be considered a contender. But what's wrong with having a little trouble with a prospect? He's unknown quality so you never know if he's the real deal until he fights world class fighters, but it's impossible to think that Chelo might just be a little better then you thought and easier to call Ricky a bum.

              But like I was saying, based on you descrpition of a bum fighter anyone who struggles with a contenderis a bum, so that would make 95% of boxers bums.

              I think it's more foolish to say a fighter is a bum because he had a hard time with a contender. It's boxing, **** happens but the end of the day he won. Just admit you don't like Ricky and that'll be a much better reason to discredit him.
              Again just shut up and go buy a pair of glasses because you are blind.burns didnt just have trouble he got outclassed and yes burns is a bum and should stick with the european fighters because that's all he is going to beat.
              Last edited by wizard king; 05-14-2013, 06:28 AM.

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              • shoog
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                #27
                Ive never been impressed by burns, beating UK club fighters, believe it or not chelo was a step up for burns and he didn't do a damn thing but eat punches, and that does not a great boxer make, he's extremely lucky that chelo quit on his stool.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by ComicDon
                  He must have hurt him enough for him not to come out for the 10th round. I mean since when has a fighter just quit because they're winded.
                  Uppercut at the end of round 7 took Gonzalez' legs away from him.

                  Gonzalez is clearly a highly skilled boxer, with heavy hands. I would back him to give Abril, Vasquez, or Broner plenty of trouble but no one is going to go near him after Saturday night. Here's the issue though, and I have to keep explaining this to people -being technically better, controlling the distance, the jab, upper body movement are all fine and well. You need more than that, especially at world level. Conditioning, durability, and fortitude are just a few examples. If Gonzalez possessed any of those attributes he would sitting now as a world champion. He doesn't, otherwise he would have stayed in. Even if he had two broken hands. Saturday night is the perfect example of why these attributes are required in top level boxing.

                  Gonzalez was technically better, but Burns crushed him physically and mentally.

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                  • Weebler I
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by shoog
                    Ive never been impressed by burns, beating UK club fighters, believe it or not chelo was a step up for burns and he didn't do a damn thing but eat punches, and that does not a great boxer make, he's extremely lucky that chelo quit on his stool.
                    Rocky Martinez, Michael Katsidis, Andreas Evenson and Paulus Moses?

                    Actually, Burns has fought more foreign fighters than local fighters since 2006.

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                    • richardt
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                      #30
                      Anyone who says Chelo wasn't hurt by the punches or they weren't taking anything out of Chelo was not in that ring being hit. Burns landed plenty of punches and the injury happened at least 2 rounds AFTER Burns pressure started breaking him and turning the fight around. Title fights are not 7 rounds.

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