Comments Thread For: Wladimir Klitschko: It is So Difficult To Be This Boring!

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  • Schwejk
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    #111
    Originally posted by King-
    Why is it too late? Wlad is set to fight the top HW not named Klitschko in Povetkin in the fall, possibly Pulev or Fury after that.... And which ever fighter becomes his mandatory after that. Wlad could be 48 years old, but if he beats them he beats them....I don't understand what you mean by too late. And you're acting like he hasn't already cleaned out the division this whole whole decade, prior to these upcoming fights.
    Too late, because Wladimir will fight 2-3 years more, and it's easier for them to wait until he's gone.

    Cleaned? LOL There was nothing to clean.

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    • Jam Jars
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      #112
      Originally posted by King-
      Why is it too late? Wlad is set to fight the top HW not named Klitschko in Povetkin in the fall, possibly Pulev or Fury after that.... And which ever fighter becomes his mandatory after that. Wlad could be 48 years old, but if he beats them he beats them....I don't understand what you mean by too late. And you're acting like he hasn't already cleaned out the division this whole whole decade, prior to these upcoming fights.
      Cleaned out? There has been a few top rated HW fighters he never fought, his brother also beat some of them. He didn't clean out anything.

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      • cupocity303
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        #113
        Originally posted by Own3d
        Cleaned out? There has been a few top rated HW fighters he never fought, his brother also beat some of them. He didn't clean out anything.
        Name me ONE fighter from 2006-2013 that was slated at the top, that Wlad did not face and beat?

        He has cleaned out the division and had to recycle old competition and beat them again, since nobody else stepped up.

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        • DreamFighter
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          #114
          recycle?

          you mean he is recycling fatboys and retirees that any good HW could beat anyway.

          The job of the HW champion is to fight the best prime fighters they can on the planet, a task that every ATG has done to he best of their ability, often meaing a string of consecutive prime good opponents. In contrast Wlad has never beat a prime good opponent, and has never had any intention in facing one, a pattern he wont change now. Wlads the antithesis of an ATG not becaue I say so, but through his own choice of actions.

          Now I don't blame entirely, since the division is at its weakest its ever been, but its rather obvious he saw this gap in the market and took the opportunity to make himself some easy money like a medal winner for a really obscure Olympic sport that no one plays.
          Last edited by DreamFighter; 05-15-2013, 06:30 PM.

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          • cupocity303
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            #115
            Originally posted by DreamFighter
            recycle?

            you mean he is recycling fatboys and retirees that any good HW could beat anyway.
            This is a irrelevant observation.

            The job of the HW champion is to fight the best prime fighters they can on the planet, a task that every ATG has done to he best of their ability,
            Name the "best prime fighter" he is or was supposed to fight but didn't. Thanks in advance.


            often meaing a string of consecutive prime good opponents. In contrast Wlad has never beat a prime good opponent,
            Define for us what the criteria for your, "prime, good opponent".

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            • Schwejk
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              #116
              The only name coming to my mind is Valuev. Possibly Helenius, he is already 2-3 years on top.

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                #117
                Originally posted by Schwejk
                The only name coming to my mind is Valuev. Possibly Helenius, he is already 2-3 years on top.
                You can't fight someone who refuses to get in the ring with you. What was he supposed to do, point a gun at Valuev and force him to sign for the fight?

                Instead he easily defeated Haye and Chagaev, two guys whoo beat Valuev.

                Lol at Helenius who has been inactive and injured for the last two years.

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                • LacedUp
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                  #118
                  Originally posted by Cupocity303
                  This is a irrelevant observation.
                  Why? Because it doesn't suit your agenda?

                  Originally posted by Cupocity303
                  Name the "best prime fighter" he is or was supposed to fight but didn't. Thanks in advance.
                  Corrie Sanders rematch? Chris Arreola? Adamek? Valuev?

                  Originally posted by Cupocity303
                  Define for us what the criteria for your, "prime, good opponent".
                  Someone who didn't have their prime 5 years ago. He has good wins over Chagaev, Haye and Ibragimov. Byrd is also a good win.

                  Otherwise his resume is filled with the Thompsons, Austins and Rahman's of this world
                  Last edited by LacedUp; 05-16-2013, 05:56 AM.

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                  • Schwejk
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                    #119
                    Originally posted by Pirao
                    You can't fight someone who refuses to get in the ring with you. What was he supposed to do, point a gun at Valuev and force him to sign for the fight?
                    You can't also say, Klitschkos really wanted to fight Valuev, I didn't see any serious sources.

                    Originally posted by Pirao
                    Instead he easily defeated Haye and Chagaev, two guys whoo beat Valuev.
                    This means nothing and you know it.

                    Why didn't he fight Helenius as he rised? Why didn't Wladimir make him an offer after Helenius defeated Lyakhovich? He would be much better opponent as Mormeck and co.

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                    • Schwejk
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                      #120
                      Originally posted by LacedUp
                      Someone who didn't have their prime 5 years ago. He has good wins over Chagaev, Haye and Ibragimov. Byrd is also a good win.

                      Otherwise his resume is filled with the Thompsons, Austins and Rahman's of this world
                      Chagaev was a late substitution afaik and far away from his prime.

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