The gloves issue, just how big is it?

[AIR_KENG]

Of course, it was written in the contract before training camp. Why would you train for a fight when there's no contract?

But the bad thing is Murad did not tell Pacquiao and Roach that Winning gloves should be used by both fighters in the contract. I remember knowing about this gloves issues a week and half before the fight.

Murad is a ****ed up individual, that's the bottomline, and he deserved to be fired. I still believe that the gloves thing was NOT an issue in the first fight(and hopefully, Pac proves me wrong this coming Saturday). But I just want to correct your statement saying they knew about it before training camp. FALSE. Only Murad knew, the rest of Pacquiao camp did not.

right on target

[Manny_P]

Naaaaaaahhh, I think blaming the gloves takes the top spot. At least Morales told the truth.

nah man. Saying that Raheem didn't want to fight him when he was gettin his ass whooped by left hooks and right hands is much sillier. What kind of excuse is that? That's like Sugar Ray Leonard vs Duran witout the No Mas. hahahaha!

[AIR_KENG]

If Manny wins on saturday, wearing Reyes...

Is he the superior fighter ? Why would a Reyes victory carry anymore weight than a "Winning"-glove victory ?

The rubber match....should be fought with Everlasts, to really settle things.


But.....we would then need to see who'd win with Grant, TufWear, Ringside gloves, etc....correct ?

your totally missing the point there... it's not trying to wear all the gloves... it's what is comfortable for one fighter... as for pac, he isn't with winning... simple as that

[AIR_KENG]

Barrera was forced to use Winning in the rubbermatch and he won his fight quite convincingly. I don't see how it's such a big deal for Pacquiao.

do they have similar styles??? NO. Like all of us know here, pac relies largely on his punching power, not boxing skills... barrera used his boxing skills so he did not have to grunt about the gloves... as for a power-punching pac, it matters s

[2_piece_combos]

and Pacquiao knockeddown Barrera legitly wit an uppercut in the 5th round, but the ref didn't call it neither. LOL!

Official = Morales didn't drop Raheem.

Morales stopped Guty Espadas with Winning gloves.

[Manny_P]

Morales stopped Guty Espadas with Winning gloves.

Pac would stop that old man in 1 round homie. 2 rounds wit Winning on.

[2_piece_combos]

Pac would stop that old man in 1 round homie. 2 rounds wit Winning on.

........with what gloves? Definitely not the pillows, right? Old man?

[2_piece_combos]

I actually like Pacquiao alot. But, these excuses are the same thing that turned me against De La Hoya. Take your loss like a man.

[Manny_P]

........with what gloves? Definitely not the pillows, right? Old man?

you're stoopid. how in the hell you brag an El terible TKO win when the guy is obviously shot as hell when he fought him, OLD and got's 7 losses pre fight. WTF? If you think that's impressive, then you easily pleased. LOL!

[Manny_P]

I actually like Pacquiao alot. But, these excuses are the same thing that turned me against De La Hoya. Take your loss like a man.

tell that to Morales who said Raheem didn't want to fight him and he's too fast as excuse.