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  • #11
    Originally posted by Pan-Africanist View Post
    Now you want to speak the truth. Your the same kind of person that would say Broners ducking the 140lb division. I dont see you using that promoters argument then..
    Ducking a division is different from allegedly ducking an opponent. A Promoter cannot force a fighter to fight at 147. Broner could have stayed at 135 or moved to 140 so unless he seriously could not make 135/140, he is without an excuse. As well, money earners have a little more say as to who they fight but even they have a very hard time picking or ducking an opponent because the Promoter gets the last word. The rarest occasion of this would be Canelo. He and Schafer were at odds for some time because Canelo wanted Trout and Schafer did not. But that is different from weight issues. When Broner and his people congregated, either he came to them and told them he could not make 135/140 and that would make the Pauli choice a little easier to accept. More likely Team Broner saw an easy target for an easy title and Broner offered no resistance.
    Last edited by richardt; 05-11-2013, 08:38 PM.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by daggum View Post
      when mayweather turned down 100 million for 35 million. another sound business decision?
      Last I checked it was Top Rank and Pacquiao that pulled out of the deal. Twice

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      • #13
        Originally posted by richardt View Post
        Ducking a division is not the same as allegedly ducking an opponent. A Promoter cannot force you to fight at 147. Broner could have stayed at 135 or moved to 140 so unless he seriously could not make 140, he is without an excuse.
        Stay at 135 and fight who? For the last 6 months everybodies been saying the LW division is crap. And every fighter of note at 140 has/had a fight on the books already.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Pan-Africanist View Post
          Last I checked it was Top Rank and Pacquiao that pulled out of the deal. Twice
          Where did you check?....Floydhype, WSHH or Ellerbe's dustbin?

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Pan-Africanist View Post
            Stay at 135 and fight who? For the last 6 months everybodies been saying the LW division is crap. And every fighter of note at 140 has/had a fight on the books already.
            I would be willing to bet that Pauli would not be favored to beat any of the top lightweights, Jr Welterweights, or Welterweights. If 135 is crap, Pauli is worse than crap. At the time Broner signed with Reese, there were some top 8 fighters in each of the 3 divisions that were available that almost no one would complain if he fought. Heck, if Broner had signed to fight Keith Thurman, I would have called that an excellent matchup. I may not like certain things about Broner but unlike others, he would have got mad props from me if he had faced someone other than Pauli feather fists. I would bet a poll that shows Broner vs Thurman and Broner vs Pauli would net totally different results. Some people hate to hate for no reason and no matter who a fighter faces, they are not happy. Some of us are not that way. I don't like some of the things he has said about groups of people and his arrogance but his arrogance is forgivable if he insists on fighting the best like Canelo did in his last fight. At some point, if a fighter is a star or budding star, they have to start insisting on the best if they are elite or want to be elite. They may get backlash from the promoter who only sees money but at least they are on record as trying to fight the elite. Pauli is just not that.
            Last edited by richardt; 05-11-2013, 08:52 PM.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Pan-Africanist View Post
              Last I checked it was Top Rank and Pacquiao that pulled out of the deal. Twice
              Actually I think it was GBP, HBO, TR, and Showtime that put the nail in that fight. Even though Floyd is his own company he basically has GBP do all the work for him. Floyd never puts on his own card, he always tag teams with GBP. But with the GBP/Showtime vs TR/HBO situation, that was essentially the nail in the coffin for that Mayweather/Pacquaio fight - before the network/promoter splits there was always the slim possibility to make the fight despite all the public jawing, now there's no possibility.

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              • #17
                Now we know why he ducked Broner. He would have been taken out in 4-5 rounds.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by SkillspayBills View Post
                  Now we know why he ducked Broner. He would have been taken out in 4-5 rounds.
                  Safe to say Vazquez would have out boxed him as well.

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                  • #19
                    I cant believe what chelo did!! This is unforgivable!!! He won 7 out of 9 rounds on of thise a posible 10-8 round, you have 3 rounds to go and you fucking quit? This wasnt some bs fight, this is the fight you worked your ass off your whole life for!!

                    Fuck him, I hyped him up cuz I knew his skills, but I forgot the intagibles!!! This is another Victor Ortiz to me, even worst! ;(

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                    • #20
                      By the way, Burns aint ****, Broner gives him a pasting, 4 round KO!

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