Floyd cherry picks video proof

[Juof]

You might get banned for making floyd threads now

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

But the legacy thing is something used to take a shot at floyd because he is so arrogant about his standing in the history of the sport. I mean Ali, SRl fought who they did because they were around. Larry Holmes, Wlad, Marlon STarling all fought everyone too but there everyone isn't as good.

This weekend he was very humble regarding his place. As a result, the media focused only on his performance and nothing else because he didn't go there.

See, I have no issues with Floyd talking about his place in history because I think he's up there. Now I wont' start a thread and say definitively that he's the best ever (like someone else did, no names) but I will say it's ok for him to be arrogant about what he's done.

Personally I think humility is better and more appealing to fans. At the same time, you need arrogance as a fighter, that a quality you have to have.

If you were brought up for example in an era like Mike Tyson where the HW division was weak, it's not you're fault if you fought everyone, which Tyson did.

If you are like Floyd and tip toe'd around certain fighters or fought some way too late, I think the criticism is lagit.

[The Gambler1981]

Those are fair points but when in a boxers career that has achieved the pinnacle like Floyd do you stop looking at money and start looking at legacy and challenges?

I remember hearing in an interview where they asked Chavez Sr why he moved up and fought some of the guys he did and he said because he wanted to test himself above all else.

I just think Mayweather has been handled perfectly but you can't say it's ONLY about the money because he took less money for example to fight Baldomir instead of fighting Margarito for a guaranteed 8 million.

It is not about money it is about risk/reward. It is like I can make $8 or $6 I would obviously choose $8 but if I can make $8 then $12 or $6 then $24 I would choose $6 then $24~


The last part is only part of the story and he made about the same without having to deal with Top Rank bull**** which might have put the kibosh on the Oscar fight which was worth much more than. You can't just think about the money currently at hand but all the other money out there to be earned. Margarito wasn't worth enough more than Baldomir to make it worth Floyd's while. Hell the Manny fight was worth much more than Margarito and bullshit with Top Rank (from both sides) made that impossible to make in the end.


Some people are motivated by different things, Floyd is obviously a greed guy some guys are motivated by pride or vanity and they will act accordingly but those aren't flawless motivations either and have just as many pitfalls as greed.

[The Big Dunn]

See, I have no issues with Floyd talking about his place in history because I think he's up there. Now I wont' start a thread and say definitively that he's the best ever (like someone else did, no names) but I will say it's ok for him to be arrogant about what he's done.

Personally I think humility is better and more appealing to fans. At the same time, you need arrogance as a fighter, that a quality you have to have.

If you were brought up for example in an era like Mike Tyson where the HW division was weak, it's not you're fault if you fought everyone, which Tyson did.

If you are like Floyd and tip toe'd around certain fighters or fought some way too late, I think the criticism is lagit.

The thing is when his legacy is evaluated-it wont be based on the crap here in NSB. Yeah, maybe he could've fought Margs-but he fought for the lineal title instead. for the same money. Is that really something to hold against his legacy?

If floyd had gone the ODH/SRL route it may not have worked for him. But hey-you make your bed you lay in it. But floyd being nice or floyd being a **** has no bearing on the talent level of his opposition.

[Zano-24]

You do realize that a lot of these fighters are the same. Why do you think Rigo wanted to fight Donaire so bad? Because he knew he could beat him. Why do you think Manny wanted to fight Cotto again or better yet Mosley? When it gets to a point to where there are no real names left you have to go with the other options at hand.

[Weebler I]

Floyd exposes his own cherry-picking (like anyone was ever in any doubt).

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

The thing is when his legacy is evaluated-it wont be based on the crap here in NSB. Yeah, maybe he could've fought Margs-but he fought for the lineal title instead. for the same money. Is that really something to hold against his legacy?

If floyd had gone the ODH/SRL route it may not have worked for him. But hey-you make your bed you lay in it. But floyd being nice or floyd being a **** has no bearing on the talent level of his opposition.

Actually it was for less money, he didn't make 8 million for fighting Baldomir.

Also, I never said that his personal attitude has anything to do with his legacy. I just pointed out that fans do like humility in fighters, it's a redeeming quality.

[Twako]

You do realize that a lot of these fighters are the same. Why do you think Rigo wanted to fight Donaire so bad? Because he knew he could beat him. Why do you think Manny wanted to fight Cotto again or better yet Mosley? When it gets to a point to where there are no real names left you have to go with the other options at hand.

manny fought the great jmm, the one fighter who gave him the most problems 4x.

[I Love Jesus!]

Go to 12:00 and you will see how he came to choosing Guerrero and how he used the Cotto, Marquez and Casamayor fights to convince himself that he couldn't lose to him.

Now, I think Floyd is a great fighter, the best in the game today and one of the best of all time, but I do think his biggest concern in boxing is not losing his 0.

For me, a great fighter is defined not only by his record, but by who he has fought. The greats pushed themselves, like Ali, Leonard, Chavez and Duran. They faced very tough competition and overcame it.

Floyd was asked about how he would do vs the greats and he kind of avoided the question saying he's in this era, not the one's of the past. I understand what he is saying but at the same time I think he's also avoided to fight certain guys at their peak.

I'm not saying he would have lost but how much better of a fight it would have been let's say Mayweather vs Margarito at 147 prime instead of Baldomir. Or Oscar and Mosley at an earlier time?

Of course the fight we all wanted, the Pac fight when Pac was destroying fighters.

I have all the respect in the world for Floyd but this to me proves that he thinks about the risk and doesn't embrace it. He should see a mountain and want to climb it, not how to get around it in the easiest way.

Just my two cents.

Jez what gave it away? What's next you going to tell us you think the sun might be hot?

[thuggery]

Thanks for posting, though it is common knowledge. Still an insightful vid though.