Unbeaten fighters

Collapse
Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Simurgh
    Undisputed Champion
    Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
    • Feb 2012
    • 4059
    • 252
    • 225
    • 25,824

    #1

    Unbeaten fighters

    I just figured out something quite significant about unbeaten fighters.

    To be unbeaten in 40+ fights is pretty impressive.
    If you say that every fighter you face has only 5% chance of beating you your chances of being unbeaten after 40 fights is just around 13%. So very likely you'll be beaten, even if the guys you fought have only 5% chance to beat you.

    I know this is not something very useful but it gives the overall picture that's quite hard to remain unbeaten.

    P.S. I don't have any agenda with this thread (I am not fan of any unbeaten fighter except GGG)
  • SlySlickSmooth
    SWIFT
    Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
    • Jun 2012
    • 12735
    • 421
    • 291
    • 26,153

    #2
    I feel as if you should trash this math. This is boxing, anything can happen. Or maybe you're just that good? Idk.

    Does anyone know how good Chris John's opponents have been?

    Comment

    • Simurgh
      Undisputed Champion
      Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
      • Feb 2012
      • 4059
      • 252
      • 225
      • 25,824

      #3
      Originally posted by SlySlickSmooth
      I feel as if you should trash this math. This is boxing, anything can happen. Or maybe you're just that good? Idk.

      Does anyone know how good Chris John's opponents have been?
      Sure, everything can happen, that's why I put it in form of probabilities. It doesn't matter if it's boxing match or card game. The laws are the same.

      There is no way to tell exactly what are the chances, but one can get some indication. that's why there is no many unbeaten fighters out there with 40+ fights.

      Comment

      • SlySlickSmooth
        SWIFT
        Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
        • Jun 2012
        • 12735
        • 421
        • 291
        • 26,153

        #4
        The 5% being the lucky KO shot right? I feel like it's just too hard to name percentage on all fighters. Give or take the fighters qualities.

        Comment

        • Simurgh
          Undisputed Champion
          Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
          • Feb 2012
          • 4059
          • 252
          • 225
          • 25,824

          #5
          Originally posted by SlySlickSmooth
          The 5% being the lucky KO shot right? I feel like it's just too hard to name percentage on all fighters. Give or take the fighters qualities.
          Might be lucky punch, unlucky injury or any possible scenario.

          You can't name the percentage I agree.

          The point is that staying unbeaten, even if you are much better than all of your opponents, is quite hard.

          Comment

          • D-MiZe
            Banned
            Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
            • Mar 2009
            • 25073
            • 1,061
            • 371
            • 75,542

            #6
            You didn't figure anything out because you've assigned made-up values and calculated it. Absolutely ridiculous that you think such simple mathematics means anything.

            Comment

            • viperz007
              Banned
              Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
              • May 2010
              • 2457
              • 89
              • 14
              • 2,638

              #7
              this is another way for floyd fans to say its okay to cherrypick

              Comment

              • Simurgh
                Undisputed Champion
                Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                • Feb 2012
                • 4059
                • 252
                • 225
                • 25,824

                #8
                Originally posted by D-MiZe
                You didn't figure anything out because you've assigned made-up values and calculated it. Absolutely ridiculous that you think such simple mathematics means anything.

                What's your point?

                You missed my point that's for sure. I have no idea what's the exact percentage of fighters coming into the fight.

                Comment

                • Simurgh
                  Undisputed Champion
                  Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                  • Feb 2012
                  • 4059
                  • 252
                  • 225
                  • 25,824

                  #9
                  Originally posted by viperz007
                  this is another way for floyd fans to say its okay to cherrypick
                  I am not floyd fan at all. I don't even like floyd... I prefer pacman...

                  God is it so difficult to make a neutral thread and to not be accused of having some agenda...

                  Comment

                  • D-MiZe
                    Banned
                    Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 25073
                    • 1,061
                    • 371
                    • 75,542

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Simurgh
                    What's your point?

                    You missed my point that's for sure. I have no idea what's the exact percentage of fighters coming into the fight.
                    I know what your point is and I disagree.

                    I also disagree with the mathematics you used to prove your point.

                    I can think of many fighters with great records who had an 80% chance of being undefeated after fighting said fighters.

                    Comment

                    Working...
                    TOP