Comments Thread For: Mayweather: If I Beat Canelo, They Will Create More Foes

[El Angel]

Yeah Floyd? That's how boxing works.

[J The UnBiased]

you need to change your name because its quite clear in all of your posts here that you are nothing but biased for floyd.

margarito was not shane's most impressive win. please GTFO w/ that bull****.

Did you see how awful margarito looked in that fight? he was clearly suffering the ill effects of the cotto fight which clearly showed. If baldomir deserved a floyd fight so did margarito. At no point in their careers was baldomir better than margarito.

SMDH at these repugnant floyd fans always have some screennames like "jtheunbiased" or "boxingfollower" or "realboxingfan" some other dishonest screen name trying portray themselves as some honest boxing fans, YOU ARE A FRAUD, PRETENDING TO BE SOME NEUTRAL HONEST POSTER WITH NO AGENDA WHEN CLEARLY YOU ARE A FLOYD FAN BOY. A FLOIDS INFESTED FLOWMOESEXUAL.

Stop Frontin.

Be an adult and stop with the ****sexual tirade you clown. Margarito is definitely Shane's most impressive win, no doubt about it. Margarito looked like crap against Shane because Shane exposed him for the one dimensional fighter Margarito is. His fight game is very amateurish with little to no skill involved. But he was believed to be a beast because he hit hard and had a harder chin. He was praised for beating the undefeated Cotto, which would have been impressive had the hand wrap situation never came up. And yes, Baldomir deserved a shot, he was the WBC and IBA champ at Welter Weight. Margarito was not, simple. I's clear to me that you have a personal dislike for a guy you've never met, and that's just the child in you and you haven't tapped into your man hood yet, whatever. but if telling the truth means im the childish term "*****", then I guess I'm a *****.

[whoseyourdaddy]

He'll make canelo look amateurish just like he does to everybody else. Canelo needs a stationary target. And we all know mayweather "who has not lost his legs" is no stationary target.if canelo throws those wild and slow over and rights. He will go to sleep.

Man Trout was such stationary target is ridiculos....I mean he did not move at all. did not gave Canelo angles or side to side movement what the hell was Troutthinking!!!!!

[peplz]

The facts

Yeah, what is his point?

As long as any champion is still boxing fans are going to keep coming with new opponents for them.

Why does he think he doesn't have to fight anyone worth a damn now, that he can just extract money from the sport fighting weak opponents and no one will criticise?

If you don't want to fight the best opponents then retire, no one wants to watch cherry-picked one-sided fights.

And he shouldn't even speak Pacquiao's name, he flat out ducked the guy. If he ducks Canelo and Alvarez loses, is he going to say "there you go, he lost".
Ridiculous.

Late 2009 Mayweather and Pacquiao enter into negotiations for a fight through their respective representatives. Mayweather asks for USADA Olympic style drug testing to be administered and Manny Pacquiao balks. Top Rank and Pacquiao in turn demand that a $10,000,000 per pound weight penalty be amended to the contract and Mayweather agrees. Even with Mayweather relenting to his demands Pacquiao still refuses to accept Mayweather's drug testing demands. A variety of excuses as to why Pacquiao cannot be drug tested including fear of needles are bandied about and the fight negotiations begin to circle the toilet bowl.

Pacquiao "flat out" walks away from mediation of negotiations where a cut off date of 14 days before fight night for USADA Olympic style drug testing is offered telling his representatives in his own word's that he's "not doing that" and immediately files a defamation law suit. (Opposing litigants in a defamation law suit almost never do business with one another because the plaintiffs case would assuredly be dropped by the court. You can't at once claim damages for being defamed and then also enter into a business agreement to be enriched with a multi million dollar contract by the same party. Any judge or jury would see straight through that. So when Pacquiao filed the lawsuit he effectively killed any chance of negotiating a fight until the lawsuit was either decided or dropped.)

In the summer of 2011 Bob Arum claims that he is negotiating a fight with Pacquiao and Mayweather but at the same time admits that HBO executive producer/documentarian Ross Greenburg, who does not represent Floyd Mayweather, is the only person that he has had any communication with. Then he puts a count down clock on the Top Rank website as an arbitrary time for Mayweather to agree to terms that were never even presented to any of his emissaries. Meanwhile Pacquiao still has an open lawsuit against Mayweather.

In 2012 Mayweather calls Manny Pacquiao on the phone and offers him $40,000,000 of his own personal money to fight him and Pacquiao balks once again. Claiming to be embarrassed by the offer because of the lack of an offer to share any of the PPV profits. Yet he continues to pay attorney's to pursue a defamation suit against Mayweather. The lawsuit has been dropped since but so has Pacquiao from a counter straight right from longtime rival Juan Manuel Marquez. And Pacquiao was knocked out cold when he drooped and effectively knocked out of the running for a Mayweather showdown.

These are indisputable facts. And they paint the picture of Manny Pacquiao and Top Rank doing everything that they can to avoid negotiating an actual fight with Mayweather while trying to sell to the public that they were trying to make the fight happen through the thinnest veil of deception/media manipulation.

A cliche that speaks so true to the limitations of Bob Arum's masterfully honed media manipulation: You can fool some of the people all of the time and all of the people some of the time but you can't fool all of the people all of the time.

So the next time that you try to claim that Floyd "flat out ducked" Pacquiao remember that some of us actually know the facts.

[kiaba360]

I don't think he's the most articulate guy, however, I understand what he means. He's saying that people are basically waiting for him to lose, and its not about them wanting to see him fight. They will always come up with someone until he loses to say "see he wasn't that good to begin with."Also, he's basically saying he's worked hard to be on top and Canelo needs to earn his dues like did. By fighting Floyd, canelo is taking a short cut to the top. The only known challenge he's fought so far is trout.

I want to see the fight also, but I feel Ginger is not proven and, like Floyd said, he won't get credit. With that said, I hope Floyd doesn't go and fight some washed up fighter or someone who also hasn't done enough to earn a shot. His choices are slim, but he needs to understand that being in the sport so long means there is a generation who wasn't around to see his challenges, and in order to be relevant he has to face their generation of fighters. I was around from the beginning of his career, so I know what the environment was like surrounding his bouts and all the so-called expert picking against him, and who is opponents were at the time he's faced them.

There are very few guys at 140-154 that have the kind of resume that makes you say, "Floyd definitely has to fight him!" He has a bunch of guys around him that are still building themselves. There will never be an undisputed #2 because not everyone is fighting each other. If Canelo cleans out 154, I would definitely be on-board, but GBP will not go that route because they can simply side-step it due to Canelo's star-potential and the hype he has surrounding him. I would like to see him face the winner of Lara/Angulo (WBC), winner of Smith/Molina (IBF) and the winner of Andrade/Baysangurov (WBO). Not a chance in hell that's gonna happen, because Canelo can just fight Cotto, demolish him and say that he defeated Cotto better than Floyd did which is similar to what Pac was doing at WW.

[Bermuda]

Yeah Floyd? That's how boxing works.

lol^^^^..........

[Bullrider]

Clear as day that SHO wants Canelo for Floyd's next fight. I really don't see anything similar to the Pac negotiations that makes this fight difficult to make. There's no Arum to deal with. They're both GBP fighters. Canelo would bow down to whatever terms he wants. Not to mention testing. And before I forget they're both amenable to the September date.

[sicko]

OF COURSE!

If he beats Canelo then they will call him to fight GGG after...it will never stop, people who hate Mayweather will always find someone for him who they will hype up and accuse him of ducking

[mannyfresh209]

To everybody saying "yeah Floyd, that's how boxing works!",

He's referring to the masses of fans who will never give him his just due, and will always discredit his victories. If he beats Canelo it'll be "well everybody said Canelo was too inexperienced." They'll find somebody else to claim "ok, Floyd. If you beat THIS guy maybe, just maybe, we can put you up there with the GOATs."


In no way is he saying he doesn't want to fight any good fighters. Get a clue.

DLH - washed up
Hatton - too small
Marquez - too small
Mosley - too old
Ortiz - cheap shot/too inexperienced
Cotto - washed up
Guerrero - overrated

At what point do people just say "damn Floyd schooled that man." or anything resembling a sportsmanlike remark after one of his victories?

[SpeedKillz]

To everybody saying "yeah Floyd, that's how boxing works!",

He's referring to the masses of fans who will never give him his just due, and will always discredit his victories. If he beats Canelo it'll be "well everybody said Canelo was too inexperienced." They'll find somebody else to claim "ok, Floyd. If you beat THIS guy maybe, just maybe, we can put you up there with the GOATs."


In no way is he saying he doesn't want to fight any good fighters. Get a clue.

DLH - washed up
Hatton - too small
Marquez - too small
Mosley - too old
Ortiz - cheap shot/too inexperienced
Cotto - washed up
Guerrero - overrated

At what point do people just say "damn Floyd schooled that man." or anything resembling a sportsmanlike remark after one of his victories?

my guess would be after he UDs either one of the klitschko's, but even then its a stretch to think so...