Is Wlad Klitschko on a tall, undefeated Fighter crusade?

[bojangles1987]

So it's a vicious cycle of Bum-tivity. I guess Wlad should be granted emeritus status and sit back pretty like Jack Dempsey, and these bums should fight it out until there is only one credible bum challenger left.

Lets get the ball rolling:

Wilder Vs Fury

Helenius Vs Povetkin

Pulev Vs (Insert another bum here)

Winner, gets to be the undisputed # 1 contender. Why hand Wlad the responsibility of facing all these guys consecutively when they should be facing each other for the privilege of losing to Wlad.

Take out Helenius and put Chisora in there, and I like the idea. These guys don't fight each other, and they don't fight Wlad. **** that, they need to choose one. Fight each other, or fight Wlad.

[Dolor]

watching wlad struggle against a pumped up cruiserweight

indeed, one hell of a struggle: 117-109, 118-108, 116-110. LOL

and get outlanded in powershots says more about wlad than it does haye

you cling to this (rather irrelevant) statistic like a drowning transvestite to his fake boobs. everybody knows that wlad is a jab specialist. due to his size the jab is his main weapon, which he uses not only to systematically break down his opponents, but also frequently KO them. why would anybody be surprised that his percentage of power shots is lower than his percentage of jabs? landing a power shot does not automatically mean inflicting more damage than landing a jab. out of the 36(?) power shots that haye threw, how many actually had an effect on wlad? one, two (if I'm generous)?

fact is wlad fought like a ***** against haye, he didn't want to fight, that's why he decided to just throw a jab, hold and lean his way to a victory

funny how some people think that wlad applied some special tactics against haye. in reality, wlad used the same tactics that he always uses: be cautious, keep the other guy at a distance with the jab and try to wear him down, backpedal if the other guy is coming for you (you could also see that in the pianeta fight today, even though pianeta is not a big puncher), clinch to avoid an infight, look for openings to get the right hand in. can you show me ONE SINGLE SITUATION in the entire haye fight where wlad behaved differently?

[FrankieBruno]

Unlikely atm... Povetkin is not a bum, by any means.

Povetkin is indeed a bum who is yet to fight a decent boxer

[LacedUp]

If the Povetkin fight doesn't go any different then tonight, is the olympic gold medalist really that bad, or is Wlad just THAT good?

Why do people keep throwing these names out? Wlad WILL fight them when they want the fight. Dude, Povetkin ducked him for two years. Pulev SAID HIMSELF he wanted to defend his EBU title 2-4 times before he fought Wlad. Helenius said he DIDN'T wanna fight Wlad and wasn't ready yet, and Chisora lost two straight fights in one-sided beatdowns.

Come on bro, you serious? I'm not making this stuff up, these guys ALL said this themselves, look it up.


Your last sentence is simply NOT true. Wlad isnt fighting Wach, Mormeck or Pianeta to make money and take no risks. Wlad is fighting them because EVERY SINGLE FIGHTER IN THE TOP 10 SAID THEY WERE NOT READY TO FIGHT HIM. WHAT DONT YOU UNDERSTAND ABOUT THAT?!



Okay, Wlad is just NOT going to fight because internet warriors say he shouldn't. Again, its NOT his fault they didn't want it. IF anything it shows the true DOMINANCE of Wlad, these guys do not say they aren't ready by accident........ THEY'RE the ones potentially fighting him, not you guys, and obviously they see that to fight and beat Wlad right now, is a HELL of a task.

I just don't understand..... Do people troll when they say these things?

Did you even read what I wrote?

All i'm hearing is these guys calling Wlad out, yet Wlad's fans claim they don't want to fight. Maybe they don't want to fight against him 3 times for peanuts. Ever think about that?

This has nothing to do with being an internet warrior. I'm trying to put a suggestion forward in a sensible manner, yet the Klitschko fans get so entangled in the negatives that it's almost impossible to get you to make sense of an argument.

I already said Wlad is the best in the division. Multiple times in this thread alone. I said he will most likely walk through povetkin who I don't rate, and I want to make this clear before they fight.

He gains nothing by fighting these guys like mormeck, wach and pinata. Other than money, it doesn't help his legacy that's for sure. He does it for money. simple.

And then suddenly i'm a keyboard warrior. That's just laughable.

[LacedUp]

Povetkin is indeed a bum who is yet to fight a decent boxer

Povetkin is not a bum. He has wins over Byrd, Chambers and Chagaev - three wins that are better than all the wins on Wlad's last three opponents win list combined.

However, he has zero chance of beating Wlad.

[cupocity303]

Did you even read what I wrote?

Yes we all did.

I already said Wlad is the best in the division.

Which would be stating the obvious. But when you say this, you say it with a bad connotation, which makes a difference.

I said he will most likely walk through povetkin who I don't rate, and I want to make this clear before they fight.

Yes, you're setting up a strawman because this is probably his next fight, after many years of failed negotiations.

He gains nothing by fighting these guys like mormeck, wach and pinata. Other than money, it doesn't help his legacy that's for sure.

But of course it does. You see, the names no longer matter. There is a sort of general consensus that the entire division sucks and everyone is a BUM.

So what do you do? QUANTITY over quality, if quality doesn't exist. It's about numbers. It's about getting in more title defenses and perhaps getting to 20. It's about getting your 60th win.

What Wlad needs to do is go to Russia, beat up on Povetkin, stop by in the U.S. and kick some fat, obese, McDonald's eating ass in Chris Arreola. Make a quick flyover to Finaland, and embarrass Helenius. Go back to Germany just in time for his next Mandatory defense. Keep mixing it up by facing some young nobodies and some past-prime somebodies (like he did Rahman)

And on and on. You get the picture?

Just keep staying active till retirement. That's all he can do.

[King_]

Did you even read what I wrote?

All i'm hearing is these guys calling Wlad out, yet Wlad's fans claim they don't want to fight. Maybe they don't want to fight against him 3 times for peanuts. Ever think about that?

This has nothing to do with being an internet warrior. I'm trying to put a suggestion forward in a sensible manner, yet the Klitschko fans get so entangled in the negatives that it's almost impossible to get you to make sense of an argument.

I already said Wlad is the best in the division. Multiple times in this thread alone. I said he will most likely walk through povetkin who I don't rate, and I want to make this clear before they fight.

He gains nothing by fighting these guys like mormeck, wach and pinata. Other than money, it doesn't help his legacy that's for sure. He does it for money. simple.

And then suddenly i'm a keyboard warrior. That's just laughable.

What are you talking about? You said Wlad needs to fight Povetkin, Pulev, helenis and the fact he doesn't is why he gets slack and that he fights wach, mormeck and Pianeta cause it's easy money and doesn't wanna take risks....


What I'm telling you is that all of those guys, ALL of them said they weren't ready. How can you dispute that when it's a fact? Your last sentence In the original post is Simply NOT true because the fact of the matter is NONE of those guys you mention wanted to fight.


What don't you understand about that? Look it up and find out for yourself.....

[NEETzsche]

Give him Pulev, Povetkin, Helenius, Fury, Chisora or even Solis and people couldn't talk shit about him because those are the second best bunch.

he can't just make these fights at will. there are politics and conflicts of interests involved. wlad chooses to stay active (and earning) against lower ranked contenders rather than sit it out for long intervals waiting for the stars to align and fights with the higher ranked guys like haye and povetkin to become possible. the wachs and pianetas of the world as just there to keep him busy while these other fights marinate. wlad never avoids anyone, they all get their turn eventually.

[King_]

Povetkin is not a bum. He has wins over Byrd, Chambers and Chagaev - three wins that are better than all the wins on Wlad's last three opponents win list combined.

However, he has zero chance of beating Wlad.

I agre with you on this. And the fact that if he indeed had no chance to beat Wlad, that doesn't mean Povetkin is a bum, as some Klitschko-hate propaganda will have you believe....I think it shows just how dominant Wlad is instead.


But like I said, with your earlier post....... Wlad has every right to fight Wach, Mormeck and Pianeta, he's staying active and like I said it's NOT HIS FAULT none of the top 10 contenders wanted to fight.


Ill say it again; NONE of the top 10 ranked fighters wanted to fight Wlad when he was making those defenses. NONE. So I don't really understand your original post, and as for Frankiebruno, obvious troll is obvious

[Joeyzagz]

Wlad's best win is 4-fight experience Haye, thats the only impressive thing hes ever done. His losses to Sanders, Brewster and 20 time loser Puritty are heavier and more memorable than any of his hollow accomplishments.


This is what a true champ looks like:



^^^dont need boxrec to figure out those names! so refreshing.