Floyd's PPV failing would be the best thing for boxing right now!

[tacoboxer]

.....I never understood why people come on here and care and brag about how much money he's making per fight.....

.......He's been getting rich off protecting his 0 instead of defending it and its the fans that are not getting the fights they want to see.

Some people are fans of the sport..... fine.

Some are fans of the sweet science.... better.

Others are fans of "Prize Fighting".... the business.

Looking at a fight from the singular perspective of "the best matchup" is myopic.

Please say that you understand if the fights don't meet the public expectation... the prize fighter will be the one to suffer the consequences, to the point when eventually no one cares to watch.

So if the "fans aren't getting the fights they want"... please ask yourself:

- if he is hand picking fighters.... why do people still pay
- if he only cares to protect his "0".... why do people still pay
- if he has been ducking the best fighters out there.... why do people still pay
- if his defensive style is boring.... why do people still pay
- if his personality turns off so many.... why do people still pay

... and not just pay.... but pay, and pay, and pay, and pay.... in sums that far exceed any other fighter.

Being a "couch match-maker" is like running a fantasy football team... it may be fun to do, but the trades are unrealistic, and not based on any financial reality or consideration of the athletes needs.

Anyone fighting Floyd has everything to gain and nothing to lose.

Floyds business is prize fighting. If you will allow yourself to take a step back and evaluate his career based on "fighting for a prize"... you can come to no other conclusion that he has done it better than anyone who has ever stepped into the ring.

Pac would have been a nice fight... but in the end he overestimated his negotiating power and lost out on the fight and a career high payday. His choice... his consequence.

Canelo will be a nice fight... but he will have to wait. And if Floyd the businessman, makes even one bad business decision by choosing the wrong opponent (gets too old, loses to a lesser fighter, has a poor ppv event, ect...) then the consequence of losing an opportunity to fight Canelo for more money that any previous prize fight...... that decision will be his to suffer!

[KnockUTheFukOut]

Your have to be the biggest ***in loser if you seriously search ticketmaster and check how many tickets are available and how many tickets are being sold just so you can come to this forum and say "LOOK MAYWEATHER FIGHT IS NOT SOLD OUT"

Everybody involved with this event is going to make a lot of money and guess what...YOUR NOT GETTING ANY OF IT so why are fans so ***ing worried about Ticket and PPV Sales so much as if the your getting a cut

Shows you that a lot of people are NOT BOXING FANS, they are just FANS OF BOXERS and if their fighter is not involved they want the event to FAIL!

[RSBonos]

I think it will do respectable numbers (850k) but with how much Floyd is getting paid they might lose money.

[big_james10]

No, you're an idiot

I agree wholeheartily.

[tacoboxer]

I think it will do respectable numbers (850k) but with how much Floyd is getting paid they might lose money.

Re-post from 4.30.13

Showtime will not lose money on this deal....

Fact: Mayweather live gate proceeds have been as high as $19 Million/ODL. His most recent fight $12 Million/Coto. For conservative numbers we will say this fights gate only clears $8 Million.

Fact: 1.5 Million buy rate produces revenues of $94 Million (May v. Cotto). For conservative numbers we will say this fight ppv numbers only do 750,000 buys producing $47 Million.

$55 Million in CONSERVATIVE live gate and ppv.... Less $30 mill guarantee for Floyd.... Less $3 mill for Ghost (3 times the amount he earned against Berto).... leaves $22 million in revenue not including corporate sponsorship revenue, advertising revenue, merchandise, food & beverage, ect... (if you truly know Floyds business model.... he gets a piece of all this....).

Stop with the non-sense of Showtime losing money.... It's a theory and the facts don't support it!

I'm calling my shot that even with a mediocre opponent in Guerrero, with the broader reach to the casual sports fan through CBS Broadcast TV exposure, as well as Showtime Cable TV exposure this fight sells over 1 Mill ppv buys.... Mayweather clears over $50 Million in this fight alone....

[RSBonos]

$55 Million in CONSERVATIVE live gate and ppv.... Less $30 mill guarantee for Floyd.... Less $3 mill for Ghost (3 times the amount he earned against Berto).... leaves $22 million in revenue not including corporate sponsorship revenue, advertising revenue, merchandise, food & beverage, ect... (if you truly know Floyds business model.... he gets a piece of all this....).

But let's say they end up with the 22 million (i'm assuming you started with a revenue that included that 50% cut from distributors? just making sure), that still has to pay for the promotion, Floyd will want some PPV bonus, and then obviously GBP and Haymon are not working for free. So all in all you get closer and closer to low profit.

I don't want the PPV to fail and i'm buying it. I'm just saying, and there was a rumor that they need to get around 1 million buys to make a profit.

[tacoboxer]

Your have to be the biggest ***in loser if you seriously search ticketmaster and check how many tickets are available and how many tickets are being sold just so you can come to this forum and say "LOOK MAYWEATHER FIGHT IS NOT SOLD OUT"

Everybody involved with this event is going to make a lot of money and guess what...YOUR NOT GETTING ANY OF IT so why are fans so ***ing worried about Ticket and PPV Sales so much as if the your getting a cut

Shows you that a lot of people are NOT BOXING FANS, they are just FANS OF BOXERS and if their fighter is not involved they want the event to FAIL!

I could be wrong here... but I can't remember when a Mayweather fight sold-out.

I don't believe he ever sells out because there are few cheap tickets. I don't have all the facts but I'm pretty sure the big stadium fights (Texas Stadium ect...) don't produce a bigger gate then big Vegas fights.

It seems pacdbest's argument is:
Unsold tickets to see the event at the MGM Grand Garden Arena = lack of interest...

Weak argument... look me up after the we see the live gate and ppv revenue numbers.

I'm calling for a $15 Million dollar live gate.... over 1 Mill ppv buys & a $50+ Million dollar payday for Money.

So... pacdbest....I got 100,000 pts on it if you care to wager...

[Joeyzagz]

YOu got it backwards. Floyd fighting guys unknown to the public HELPS the sport.

Mayweather/Marquez was ****ted on when it was made in 2009, But It exposed the casual fan to Marquez early on so when he KOd Pacquiao 3 years later people were already familiar with him.

[tacoboxer]

....there was a rumor that they need to get around 1 million buys to make a profit.

There are so many reporters and boxing analysts (some paid.... most not).

I've seen the same report from somewhere... so I checked the facts on live gate and ppv revenues... couldn't get any details on corporate sponsorships or advertising revenue (which I'm sure are significant..)

Hey this is just 1 mans opinion and I'm saying that cutting previous performance revenues in half.... even a sub 1 Mill ppv sell rate will make tons of money...

[Deevel916]

YOu got it backwards. Floyd fighting guys unknown to the public HELPS the sport.

Mayweather/Marquez was ****ted on when it was made in 2009, But It exposed the casual fan to Marquez early on so when he KOd Pacquiao 3 years later people were already familiar with him.

I disagree. Putting up and coming stars on the undercards of big high profile fights such as Floyd/Canelo helps them become known and helps the sport. Floyd against (Insert common Mexican named opponent that nobody knows) doesnt draw much casual fanbase interest or ppv buys.