I Bet chavez jr. is kicking him self.

[JAMES_THUNDER]

after watching martinez murray chavez being much harder puncher and stronger over all fighter if he would have pressured matrinez from early on he could have kod him like i was expecting, maybe last nights version or martinez wast the same . but then again margarito kod him with pressure so its pretty clear that pressure is his weakness.

[Roy Jones Jnr]

I bet he's lying down smoking a fat L in his pink undies to be honest pal.

[JAMES_THUNDER]

I bet he's lying down smoking a fat L in his pink undies to be honest pal.

eating a bowl of ceral too

[speed2kill]

Chavez couldn't pressure Martinez effectively because he was getting hit in the face too much. His defense stinks. Murray has a decent defense and wasn't consistantly getting hit cleanly.

[El Angel]

I think a lot of Martinez' movement problems had to with his injured knee and a very wet ring. His pivots weren't nearly as sharp as they were against Chavez Jr. and it's why he kept getting caught backing straight up.

[El Angel]

Chavez couldn't pressure Martinez effectively because he was getting hit in the face too much. His defense stinks. Murray has a decent defense and wasn't consistantly getting hit cleanly.

This too. Murray had an excellent gameplan.

[kedashy]

to be honest with you chavez jr. isn,t that good... i see martinez still beating him with movement...next...