Murray was Robbed either way you look at it

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  • JmH Reborn
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    #31
    Originally posted by King-
    Even if that's true (which you can clearly see he's talented so I don't know how you can call him a bum) but what does that have to do with the original post? So he OP said martinez avoided Pirog, how does that invalidate saying Murray got robbed?

    Stop trolling and contribute to the topic at hand.
    He brought in pirog as a guy who would wreck Sergio, so it's apart of the topic, fair game to call him out on a silly statement

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    • Mugwump
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      #32
      Originally posted by Ryn0
      Murray took the first 4 rounds off, you can't do that in a fight where you have to wrestle away the title.
      Fighters can and do precisely that regularly. If you're inexperienced and fighting away from home in a foreign country, with a hostile crowd and facing a world class opponent it is - depending on your skillset - tactically astute to ease your way into the fight, allowing your opponent zero opportunity to pounce on you early and take the fight before its even begun.

      Murray wasn't likely to KO Martinez. So the next best option is to take the championship rounds - especially as Sergio is looking increasingly fatigued in fights. Given that Murray has blown out late before it made perfect sense to conserve energy early and pile it on late. Unfortunately, Martinez had enough experience to see the fight home whilst Murray lacked the cutting edge.

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      • The Evil 1-2
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        #33
        The 3 point margin on all of the judges' scorecards was ridiculous. To add, the 2nd KD that wasn't scored despite the use of instant replay would have swung my cards around in favor of Murray.

        It's like the judges that scored this bout took some "notes" from the judges that scored the Canelo-Trout bout...

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        • Jam Jars
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          #34
          Martinez didn't win 8 rounds that the judges gave him, no way.

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          • KickAzz
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            #35
            it wasn't a robbery, but Murray fought a great fight. Murray needed to close better

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            • r.burgundy
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              #36
              Originally posted by billeau2
              BURNS My ass....Sorry but Martinez has always been overrated. I do not know why everyone thinks so much of this average fighter. His little gimmicks how he ambushes from afar and his little fun in the sun is almost over. Decent boxer punchers with basic skills and power have always been competative with this guy! From Pavlik to Murray.
              that pavlik fight was competitive?

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              • Redd Foxx
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                #37
                I can't say who won because I only caught the last half, but Murray made a critical error in that you can't carry that kind of body language against a flashy guy and expect to be judged fairly. Look more active, slip instead of just blocking, don't posture so stiff. Again, I didn't see enough to call a winner but I can see where Sergio looked better in the closer rounds, even if he wasn't as vibrant as usual.

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                • Mikhnienko
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by r.burgundy
                  that pavlik fight was competitive?
                  It was tied going into the 9th when Martinez opened those cuts.

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                  • Weebler I
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                    #39
                    Murray won a close fight, but let's be honest he needed a stoppage and he could have had it if he had taken more risks.

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                    • cupocity303
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                      #40
                      Good lord almighty, can we have one week now without the robbery nonsense.

                      I'm getting tired of the Robbery brigade!

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