Comments Thread For: Memo Heredia Says His Boxers Will Be Tested, With USADA

[josenoway]

It's hilarious to read these claims about Memo and Conte 'designing' undetectable drugs. These guys don't do jack **** on the production or design side. They're strictly middle men who source the stuff. Conte had to rely on chemist Patrick Arnold for designer drugs like THG because Arnold actually has a degree in chemistry, worked in the industry, and has/had a full scale chemistry lab near the UIC campus where he spent all his time researching and reproducing steroids/substances that, for whatever reason, never came to market.

[- Ram Raid -]

"I'm not telling you that VADA and USADA detects everything because they don't. . . Testers have advanced a lot. I gave all my testing protocols to USADA and they're closing the gap, but it'll take more time and money to improve." - Angel Heredia

So. . . Heredia knows exactly what the anti-doping agencies are testing for; what they can detect and what they can't. This is particularly the case with USADA who are 'closing the gap' partly based on his testing protocols. The man is clearly one step ahead of USADA. This being the case, preferring them to test his fighters arouses su****ion. I have no doubt that he could administer PEDs without detection. . . My question is this: Does he need to take that risk or is a good enough to attract elite fighters without juicing them?

[BuckToothed]

It's hilarious to read these claims about Memo and Conte 'designing' undetectable drugs. These guys don't do jack **** on the production or design side. They're strictly middle men who source the stuff. Conte had to rely on chemist Patrick Arnold for designer drugs like THG because Arnold actually has a degree in chemistry, worked in the industry, and has/had a full scale chemistry lab near the UIC campus where he spent all his time researching and reproducing steroids/substances that, for whatever reason, never came to market.

Maybe true for Conte, he's just the business guy for BALCO, but not true for Memo...

Memo said that he is a chemist/scientist with a degree and went on to say that he has created designer PEDS.

[josenoway]

Doesn't matter if he has 10 degrees, unless he's in a full scale organic chemistry lab 24/7, he isn't designing and producing anything. You'd need a guy like Arnold to do full-time research on past drugs that look promising, devise the synthesis, produce mere grams of the stuff, then have access to bodybuilders/gym **** willing to be guinea pigs to test the drugs' toxicology and effectiveness. Anyone who has ever taken even a basic undergraduate organic chemistry lab course will tell you how difficult, tedious, and time consuming the process is.

Maybe true for Conte, he's just the business guy for BALCO, but not true for Memo...

Memo said that he is a chemist/scientist with a degree and went on to say that he has created designer PEDS.

[FloydvsPac]

Is there still any doubt that Memo Heredia is dirty??? In the court of public opinion, it's safe to say he and JMM are guilty. Not one credible person believes a 39 yr old can suddenly perform better than he did physically at 30. Now by cooperating with USADA any older athlete in boxing and any other sport can use Memo and avoid detection.

Where are the whistle-blowers when you need them??

[KickAzz]

if Memo is on the up and up, he'd let any and everyone test his boxers. he would just stick to one

[JJRod]

Is there still any doubt that Memo Heredia is dirty??? In the court of public opinion, it's safe to say he and JMM are guilty. Not one credible person believes a 39 yr old can suddenly perform better than he did physically at 30. Now by cooperating with USADA any older athlete in boxing and any other sport can use Memo and avoid detection.

Where are the whistle-blowers when you need them??

You assume that Marquez is guilty by association; however before his 3rd fight with Pacquiao, the first time that Marquez worked with Heredia, the Pacquiao camp started making rumblings about possible cheating. Marquez said he was willing to take a blood test, and the Pacquiao team declined.

For the 4th fight again the Pacquiao team; primarily Freddie Roach, started yapping his gums about Marquez working with Heredia, and again Marquez came out and said lets BOTH submit to random testing. Pacquiao's team once again said no. Ariza came out and told Roach not to talk about Heredia anymore.

Who would you suspect had something to hide?

[JJRod]

So now boxing will not only be divided Golden Boy/Top Rank
Showtime/HBO, but Heredia/ Conte?

[hectari]

Victor Conte is a middleman, yes he did get his stuff from Parick Arnold, but Memo is an actual chemist he dealt drugs but he specializes in masking drugs and even said he developed some stuff that could past tests.

Now Alex Ariza is nothing, he has no clue on steroids, chemistry nothing, he is the lowest guy here the only ones who suspect him is Flowmos just cause they want to believe Pac is juiced to prove Floyd right, he is a clueless guy who is just a middle man for teri tom a female UCLA sports science chick who has designed all the plans for Ariza to give to his fighters. Ariza is a misleading fool, he enjoys people claiming he is giving Pacman steroids because he takes it as a compliment.

[hectari]

You assume that Marquez is guilty by association; however before his 3rd fight with Pacquiao, the first time that Marquez worked with Heredia, the Pacquiao camp started making rumblings about possible cheating. Marquez said he was willing to take a blood test, and the Pacquiao team declined.

For the 4th fight again the Pacquiao team; primarily Freddie Roach, started yapping his gums about Marquez working with Heredia, and again Marquez came out and said lets BOTH submit to random testing. Pacquiao's team once again said no. Ariza came out and told Roach not to talk about Heredia anymore.

Who would you suspect had something to hide?

Well you forget that JMM was on board for a 5th fight and Pac wanted it signed right away, but his team were including the random VADA testing and JMM now said he doesn't need Pacman, Marion Jones took all the tests and even said TEST ME TEST ME TEST ME Im clean she was working with Memo Heredia.

Arum refuses to have drug tests for big fights, he already said it will cost him millions if they call off a big fight he invested in because a fighter tests dirty.

Arum advises Pacman on everything and advised him that drug test is not needed.

Arum is a business man first and he doesn't care about cleaning up the sport if they cancel a fight for a prefight drug failure he takes a huge loss financially so he shot down the idea of drug testing when Roach requested it for the fourth fight with Marquez.