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  • Jack Napier
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    #51
    go ahead and make this fight
    Haye deserves no more title fights, so Haye-Fury is good
    wouldn't mind seeing either of them KO'd, which is likely here
    Fury would do better pursuing the eliminator with Pulev
    but if these 2 can fight while Pulev fights Wlad after Povetkin? cool

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    • FrankieBruno
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      #52
      Fury is all open for the right, also Hayes speed and reflexes are some of the best ive ever seen, Fury will struggle to keep up

      Wlad fought his most disciplined fight against Haye, he didn't take any risks, you really have to be on A Game and Fury is very sloppy, Haye holds devastating power

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      • Weebler I
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        #53
        Originally posted by Mikhnienko
        Haye and Pulev both have faster footspeed than Fury.
        Yeah but you can't run away from an opponent with good footspeed in a boxing ring. Pulev wouldn't run anyway, but Haye would.

        Fury has zero idea on how to get inside. He was able to walk through Cunningham's shots to clumsily force his way inside but he squared himself up, left himself wide open and would generally miss his own punches when coming forward and end up off balance and wide open for counters. Haye would fight similar to Cunningham making Fury chase him only Haye is a very capable counter puncher with serious power and would make Tyson pay dearly for his flaws.
        I don't think Haye has serious power at heavyweight to be honest but you make a fair point about Fury leaving himself open (although I think he would be better for a Haye fight). Regardless, I hope the Pulev fight is made next, let Haye fight another top 10 opponent and make it later in the year.

        Originally posted by gmc_rfc_06
        3 rounds, max.

        It ends with Fury on his back and Haye walking around smugly with his arms out.
        Isn't that his default position anyway?

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        • 4Corners
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          #54
          Good decent win for Haye. He would kill Fury.

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          • Jam Jars
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            #55
            Originally posted by The Weebler II
            Yeah but you can't run away from an opponent with good footspeed in a boxing ring. Pulev wouldn't run anyway, but Haye would.



            I don't think Haye has serious power at heavyweight to be honest but you make a fair point about Fury leaving himself open (although I think he would be better for a Haye fight). Regardless, I hope the Pulev fight is made next, let Haye fight another top 10 opponent and make it later in the year.
            He stood in front of Wlad with his hands down most of that fight. Fury has nothing that Haye would be too worried about, he'd prefer Fury coming at him much more than if Fury fought safe from the outside using the jab.

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            • Mikhnienko
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              #56
              Originally posted by Jack Napier
              go ahead and make this fight
              Haye deserves no more title fights, so Haye-Fury is good
              wouldn't mind seeing either of them KO'd, which is likely here
              Fury would do better pursuing the eliminator with Pulev
              but if these 2 can fight while Pulev fights Wlad after Povetkin
              ? cool
              I don't think Pulev and Sauerland would take a title shot as a voluntary defense because they want the mandatory designation so they get a larger %. If Fury did decide to fight Haye then i would hope the IBF would just make Pulev mandatory already rather than force him to wait for a 3rd damn time for a replacement. If that happens and they name Pulev mandatory then perhaps.

              Originally posted by The Weebler II
              Yeah but you can't run away from an opponent with good footspeed in a boxing ring. Pulev wouldn't run anyway, but Haye would.



              I don't think Haye has serious power at heavyweight to be honest
              but you make a fair point about Fury leaving himself open (although I think he would be better for a Haye fight). Regardless, I hope the Pulev fight is made next, let Haye fight another top 10 opponent and make it later in the year.



              Isn't that his default position anyway?
              I don't agree with you but even if you are correct i dont think anybody would dispute that Haye has more than enough power to leave Fury unconscience, look at Chisora who had a far more proven chin.

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                #57
                Originally posted by Own3d
                He stood in front of Wlad with his hands down most of that fight. Fury has nothing that Haye would be too worried about, he'd prefer Fury coming at him much more than if Fury fought safe from the outside using the jab.
                Wlad doesn't move like Fury, nor does Chisora. What is Haye going to do when Fury gets inside?

                We already know, he's going to fall to the deck and claim Fury was leaning on him like he did against Wlad.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Mikhnienko
                  I don't agree with you but even if you are correct i dont think anybody would dispute that Haye has more than enough power to leave Fury unconscience, look at Chisora who had a far more proven chin.
                  Chisora walked through 5 rounds of flush Haye combinations. Haye has power at HW in the same way Froch has power at 168, it's good but it's not great. If Fury gets KO'd it'll either be though accumulation or a dodgy chin.

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                  • Jam Jars
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by The Weebler II
                    Wlad doesn't move like Fury, nor does Chisora. What is Haye going to do when Fury gets inside?

                    We already know, he's going to fall to the deck and claim Fury was leaning on him like he did against Wlad.
                    Fury would eat big punches coming in, the fight would be over in a few rounds. Haye fights on the back foot counter punching in almost every fight at HW, he prefers it and that's what he would be preparing for.

                    There was one time Haye went down by himself the rest Wlad pulled his head down like Manny Steward told him to in the corner.

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                    • Weebler I
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Own3d
                      Fury would eat big punches coming in, the fight would be over in a few rounds. Haye fights on the back foot counter punching in almost every fight at HW, he prefers it and that's what he would be preparing for.
                      That's what Cunningham tried to do. I don't believe Haye is so effective at maintaining the distance that Fury wouldn't be able to get inside. Whether he can take Haye's punches coming in is another question.

                      Another big question is what the ref does once Fury gets inside, does he pull them apart or let Fury go to work?

                      There was one time Haye went down by himself the rest Wlad pulled hid head down like Manny Steward told him to in the corner.
                      lol Wlad wasn't pulling Haye the whole way to the deck. It was clear tactic on Haye's part - and a clever one if a little cowardly.

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