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  • PAC-BOY
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    #81
    Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1520
    That's you're only response hu? Well thanks for playing and losing the debate, this one was simple.

    I'm Mexican and could care less if Canelo is Mexican or not. I call them like I see them and he is the truth.
    Im not Mexican and i totally agree with you. Little**** is just a little slow. hes alright though.

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    • littlemac
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      #82
      Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1520
      That's you're only response hu? Well thanks for playing and losing the debate, this one was simple.

      I'm Mexican and could care less if Canelo is Mexican or not. I call them like I see them and he is the truth.
      What was the debate? That the Mexican bada$$ that Oscar cons Mexican with that his a blood in guts warrior who plays it safe against a fighter that couldn't hurt him.

      Funny this same people that call Rigo a coward and a runner stood his ground and pressed the action against a much bigger and most desasting puncher in the division while Canelo the warrior decides its play it safe against a guy he already dropped, out powered and a fighter that couldn't hurt him.

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      • Cuauhtémoc1520
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        #83
        Originally posted by littlemac
        What was the debate? That the Mexican bada$$ that Oscar cons Mexican with that his a blood in guts warrior who plays it safe against a fighter that couldn't hurt him.

        Funny this same people that call Rigo a coward and a runner stood his ground and pressed the action against a much bigger and most desasting puncher in the division while Canelo the warrior decides its play it safe against a guy he already dropped, out powered and a fighter that couldn't hurt him.
        Hold on a second, you're making two different arguments. I don't remember Oscar ever describing Canelo as a "Mexican blood and guts warrior". He has just said that Canelo is a great fighter and has what it takes to be the best in the game.

        Funny you mentioned Rigo because you just contradicted yourself. If you thought what Rigo did was good (I did personally, he boxed beautifully) then you should have no problem with what Canelo did.

        Canelo fought smart, didn't come face first and out boxed a very tough opponent. You should be excited about what Canelo did and how he showed a different skill set then what we are used to.

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        • littlemac
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          #84
          Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1520
          Hold on a second, you're making two different arguments. I don't remember Oscar ever describing Canelo as a "Mexican blood and guts warrior". He has just said that Canelo is a great fighter and has what it takes to be the best in the game.

          Funny you mentioned Rigo because you just contradicted yourself. If you thought what Rigo did was good (I did personally, he boxed beautifully) then you should have no problem with what Canelo did.

          Canelo fought smart, didn't come face first and out boxed a very tough opponent. You should be excited about what Canelo did and how he showed a different skill set then what we are used to.
          Canelo fought that way cause he was gassed and a head on the cards. Rigo was a head yet almost looked like he was going for the KO against a much bigger threat. I didn't mean to sound like a ****. I looked over at some of your post and thought you were like elbosshogg. I was wrong and I appoligize for acussing you of being a nationalistic bigit. I respectfully not sold on Canelo yet, although I acknowlege his only 22 and has done great so far. I just wan't impressed with him, but thats more to do with the hype which in a sense is not fair on him to have to live up, but standards are standards and I don't think yet his there.

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            #85
            Originally posted by RAGALAC
            Everybody all hyped up that canelo has as much drawing power as Floyd....y'all do realize that only reason he sold that many tickets is cuz tickets were 13 dam dollars??????? He'll that's only reason I went lol. I bet he can't do near that as much in Vegas or somewhere else were they weren't giving away tickets all over the state like they were free food stamps for the needy......regardless what y'all wana think Floyd still holds the ppv drawing power so canelo need to slow his role and not demand ****. Y'all act like he sold out cowboys stadium at normal ppv ticket prices.
            I hadn't read this whole thread but them $13 tickets ended being sold for anywhere from $51-$78, and my tickets I bought for $153 were being sold for $250-$1050. Ticketmaster sold out within a couple days, within a couple minutes all ringside that cost $300 were sold out and being sold for $1400-$3800. So your statement talking about how cheap were the tickets doesn't really make sense to me because either way there was a lot of money being made in my City San Antonio!

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              #86
              Originally posted by PAC-BOY
              Im not Mexican and i totally agree with you. Little**** is just a little slow. hes alright though.
              Thanks Pac-boy. You alright too. I just like to tease you thats all.

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                #87
                Originally posted by littlemac
                Canelo fought that way cause he was gassed and a head on the cards. Rigo was a head yet almost looked like he was going for the KO against a much bigger threat. I didn't mean to sound like a ****. I looked over at some of your post and thought you were like elbosshogg. I was wrong and I appoligize for acussing you of being a nationalistic bigit. I respectfully not sold on Canelo yet, although I acknowlege his only 22 and has done great so far. I just wan't impressed with him, but thats more to do with the hype which in a sense is not fair on him to have to live up, but standards are standards and I don't think yet his there.
                We can agree that he isn't elite yet, I get that. What I do disagree with is the notion that he did what he did because he was gassed or ahead on the cards. In the last round, you are right, the scoring system made him do that. In the 11th round though, he won that round clearly and had Trout hurt in that round.

                He had to fight this type of fight because if he would have come forward and been to anxious, he could have easily lost. People may not like it, but Canelo has many different things he can do in the ring and there's no reason for him not to use all of them.

                Every Mexican fighter doesn't have to be a face first warrior like Rios or Marg, there are the technicians as well like Finito Lopez and JMM.

                Canelo showed he has another dimension to his game.

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                • mezoomozaa
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                  #88
                  The only reason why he sold 40.000 is being Mexican , young and very white with red hair ( for girls ) , it is not related to his boxing skills or his fake record .

                  and they are all factors not related to boxing . Alvarez didn't do anything about this .

                  the state of Mexican boxing today is pathetic , their champions and PPV draws are the likes of Chavez Jr and Alvarez .

                  those types of paper champions are bad for boxing , and if it is what gets new fans , most of them will be girls and kids , I am sure they are going to be **** fans and disgrace to the sport .

                  Mexican americans need to support real champions and real boxers , No wonder with all these thousands of mexican boxers throughout history , only handful mexican boxers are regarded ATG .

                  I am not anti-mexico , I like the country , and I am huge fan of real boxers like Chavez Sr. , Morales and Barrera .

                  and I think Alvarez has a promising history , but calm down , he still has a long way to go to become a real champion , I thought he was good enough to be a threat to A level boxers , but after Trout fight , I think he is still very immature , and if he has big fights soon , it will be the end of his career , and he may retire before 30s .

                  Don't treat the young man like he is another Tyson , he didn't show anything impressive yet .
                  Last edited by mezoomozaa; 04-22-2013, 05:57 PM.

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                  • RiC-DiC
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                    #89
                    he only got fans because he's mexican and has red hair. he's like the great hope of today in mexican boxing, so of course they're all on the canelo bandwagon..

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by mezoomozaa
                      The only reason why he sold 40.000 is being Mexican , young and very white with red hair ( for girls ) , it is not related to his boxing skills or his fake record .

                      and they are all factors not related to boxing . Alvarez didn't do anything about this .

                      the state of Mexican boxing today is pathetic , their champions and PPV draws are the likes of Chavez Jr and Alvarez .

                      those types of paper champions are bad for boxing , and if it is what gets new fans , most of them will be girls and kids , I am sure they are going to be **** fans and disgrace to the sport .

                      Mexican americans need to support real champions and real boxers , No wonder with all these thousands of mexican boxers throughout history , only handful mexican boxers are regarded ATG .

                      I am not anti-mexico , I like the country , and I am huge fan of real boxers like Chavez Sr. , Morales and Barrera .

                      and I think Alvarez has a promising history , but calm down , he still has a long way to go to become a real champion , I thought he was good enough to be a threat to A level boxers , but after Trout fight , I think he is still very immature , and if he has big fights soon , it will be the end of his career , and he may retire before 30s .

                      Don't treat the young man like he is another Tyson , he didn't show anything impressive yet .
                      Lol cuba has like 16 champs of all time but the state of mexican boxing is pathetic? We currently have more top contenders and champs then any other nation

                      Tell me when rigo gets to see his son again I want to laff

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