50 Cent goes into intimate detail about Floyd/Manny negotiations

[Bigg Rigg]

I hope you guys know this is old as hell, in all fairness Manny should have just took the fight in 09 when Floyd excepted 50/50 and only wanted rbt. Floyd ego is big as hell, he will never cave to Manny now especially after what happened to him. I hope Manny comes back though I miss the old Manny he just ain't been the same after cotto

In Floyd's defense because its only fair to say something positive about him once in a while but isn't that (after the Cotto fight) when Floyd started saying we can fight but we need random blood testing and Manny said no???? Ironic that you think he's never been the same after that fight...... Just saying

[QballLobo]

Hate to say it but Pacquiao has no one to blame but himself for the fight not happening. At some point you have to man up to your promoter and tell him what you want and force him to make it happen. Manny was not a Top Rank employee, he hired Arum to promote his fights. If he really wanted it to happen it would have happened. Shame on him for letting Arum dictate his career and let him take a fraction of the money to lose to Bradley and get put to sleep by a juiced (allegedly) JMM.
Arum's old and bitter, he could care less about the money anymore, he already has more than he can spend for the rest of his days.
Facts are facts, during the lawsuit it came out that they had an agreement drafted and Floyd was scheduled to sign it as written once Pac signed. Then we started to hear about needles and cut off times.
Floyd certainly has blame as well, but if Pac signed what was originally agreed to then he could have shifted all the blame to the Mayweather camp. As its stands Pac ducked that first negotiation.

[Fetta]

Who cares? One moving forward the other moving back.

[larksanders]

You're facts are wrong and your bias against Floyd is evident. First rd it was obviouis Floyd wanted the fight more than Manny's side, and later on, it was perfectly clear that Arum wanted no part of this. And Floyd offering Manny 40 million dollars doesn't look like such a bad offer now, does it?

Actually, my facts aren't wrong (google will help you). The first round of negotiations fell apart due to a cut off date, did you really forget that? I have no bias against anyone. I just know what NOT to do if you want to make a fight. Giving a lowball offer is one way to do and also saving face. Let's not do the hindsight thing now. At the time the offer that was made was ridiculous, and he know Manny would never have accepted that.

Floyd could have boxed Manny in though regarding the drug testing thing. He could have said that he wished to clean up the sport and he wanted to join forces with Manny and implement OSDT for their fight. There would have been no way in the world Manny could have backed out of that and Manny would have come across as the bad guy. Instead Floyd, Oscar and his father and uncle went on a smear campaign which ultimately cost them all money.

Honestly, I think you're biased and it shows because you can't look at the situation as an innocent bystander. Like I said, I think Floyd would have boxed the socks off of Manny I just wish the fight was made so we could have seen it.

[KickAzz]

You're facts are wrong and your bias against Floyd is evident. First rd it was obviouis Floyd wanted the fight more than Manny's side, and later on, it was perfectly clear that Arum wanted no part of this. And Floyd offering Manny 40 million dollars doesn't look like such a bad offer now, does it?

didn't you hear fiddy? fiddy said floyd straight up ducked pac.

[KickAzz]

Hate to say it but Pacquiao has no one to blame but himself for the fight not happening.

that's not what fiddy said. fiddy said floyd ducked pac

[QballLobo]

that's not what fiddy said. fiddy said floyd ducked pac

Like i said later I think Floyd decided the fight would be on his terms. But in 09 a contract was drafted by Golden Boy and sent to TR and Pac. Floyd had agreed to all the terms, including the $10 million per pound over the limit clause and 50/50 split on the money. They had negotiated the OSDT and Arum had told them it was not problem. In the lawsuit the actual contract was produced. It said Floyd would walk to the ring first but Manny would be introduced first. Floyd would get the headline on the card (It would read Maywather vs. Pacquiao).
No way Golden Boy sends this contract unless Floyd had OK'd it. Arum told reporters he was taking it to Pac, when they came back the testing was suddenly an issue. After that broke down I believe Floyd didn't want the fight unless it was completely on his terms, has 50 has stated.
But once again facts are facts, contract was sent and refused. If Pac had signed it we would have had a fight, probably two or three by now.

[KickAzz]

Like i said later I think Floyd decided the fight would be on his terms. But in 09 a contract was drafted by Golden Boy and sent to TR and Pac. Floyd had agreed to all the terms, including the $10 million per pound over the limit clause and 50/50 split on the money. They had negotiated the OSDT and Arum had told them it was not problem. In the lawsuit the actual contract was produced. It said Floyd would walk to the ring first but Manny would be introduced first. Floyd would get the headline on the card (It would read Maywather vs. Pacquiao).
No way Golden Boy sends this contract unless Floyd had OK'd it. Arum told reporters he was taking it to Pac, when they came back the testing was suddenly an issue. After that broke down I believe Floyd didn't want the fight unless it was completely on his terms, has 50 has stated.
But once again facts are facts, contract was sent and refused. If Pac had signed it we would have had a fight, probably two or three by now.

fiddy knows all this and yet fiddy still said floyd ducked pac, not that pac ducked floyd. fiddy knows something that you don't.

[larksanders]

Like i said later I think Floyd decided the fight would be on his terms. But in 09 a contract was drafted by Golden Boy and sent to TR and Pac. Floyd had agreed to all the terms, including the $10 million per pound over the limit clause and 50/50 split on the money. They had negotiated the OSDT and Arum had told them it was not problem. In the lawsuit the actual contract was produced. It said Floyd would walk to the ring first but Manny would be introduced first. Floyd would get the headline on the card (It would read Maywather vs. Pacquiao).
No way Golden Boy sends this contract unless Floyd had OK'd it. Arum told reporters he was taking it to Pac, when they came back the testing was suddenly an issue. After that broke down I believe Floyd didn't want the fight unless it was completely on his terms, has 50 has stated.
But once again facts are facts, contract was sent and refused. If Pac had signed it we would have had a fight, probably two or three by now.

Dude, you're missing a big point here. The reason the fight fell through was due to a cut off date by two days. There was even a mediator brought in to help get the deal made. Floyd actually walked away from the fight.