Canelo vs Mayweather: Who wins?

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  • ADP02
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    #61
    Canelo is not ready for Floyd. He needs to gain more experience and improve a lot on his stamina. It was crazy on how exhausted he looked after throwing so few punches. If Trout had more in him, that fight could have been disastrous for Canelo.

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      #62
      Originally posted by !! Shawn
      Canelo proved tonight he is what we thought he is. A bigger stronger younger fresher Miguel Cotto.

      Cotto gave Floyd arguably the hardest fight of his career, Canelo would push it over the edge and give Floyd his first loss in a close decision.

      Canelo's main problem was with Trout's reach, vs Floyd it wouldn't be a problem, and while he would get tagged, he will be tagging Floyd as well.
      Floyd's reach is still longer than Canelo's

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        #63
        Originally posted by ADP02
        Canelo is not ready for Floyd. He needs to gain more experience and improve a lot on his stamina. It was crazy on how exhausted he looked after throwing so few punches. If Trout had more in him, that fight could have been disastrous for Canelo.

        I think he is. Floyd is getting old. Canelo isn't ready for the Floyd who fought JMM, SSM, ODLH, Hatton, but the one who fought Cotto he is ready for. It really depends on what Floyd shows us against Guerrero. If he shows more sings of age, get's hit too much and lays on the ropes too much you can be damn sure Canelo would be ready.

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        • explosiv
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          #64
          Canelo........

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          • !! Shawn
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            #65
            Originally posted by check hook
            Floyd's reach is still longer than Canelo's
            A small difference wont matter, Trout had a huge advantage, which gave Canelo problems.

            Canelo has greater reach than Cotto, which was enough to Jab with Floyd.

            Canelo is also faster than Cotto was vs Floyd, which once again was fast enough to tag a diminishing Floyd.

            Overall, Canelo is stylistically similar enough to Cotto to trouble Floyd, and he is young enough strong enough, and big enough to turn that into a loss for Floyd.

            2-3 years ago Floyd would have been able to overcome the difference, but Floyd is aging quite fast.

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            • Carpe Diem
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              #66
              Originally posted by check hook
              Let's see how he fights Guerrero. The Floyd who fought Baldomir or Oscar at 54 would box circles around Canelo. That Floyd was still lightning quick on his feet.
              Agree. I don't have high expectations about his upcoming fight. He'll start out the first round jabbing to Guerrero's body and pressing the attack early on on the outside. I expect him to walking Guerrero down in spurts, but he'll be spending more time fighting off the ropes throughout the whole fight. I hope he fights an orthodox fighter in September though. I want to see how he'd approach that fight to see if he can really use his legs. He won't need to use his legs against Guerrero, but he'll have to turn back the clock and use his legs if/when he plans on fighting Canelo.
              Last edited by Carpe Diem; 04-21-2013, 01:33 AM.

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                #67
                Originally posted by !! Shawn
                A small difference wont matter, Trout had a huge advantage, which gave Canelo problems.

                Canelo has greater reach than Cotto, which was enough to Jab with Floyd.

                Canelo is also faster than Cotto was vs Floyd, which once again was fast enough to tag a diminishing Floyd.

                Overall, Canelo is stylistically similar enough to Cotto to trouble Floyd, and he is young enough strong enough, and big enough to turn that into a loss for Floyd.

                2-3 years ago Floyd would have been able to overcome the difference, but Floyd is aging quite fast.

                All of the above is potentially true, but Canelo doesn't really jab that much.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Carpe Diem
                  Agree. I don't have high expectations about his upcoming fight. He'll start out the first round jabbing to Guerrero's body and pressing the attack early on on the outside. I expect him to walking Guerrero down in spurts, but he'll be spending more time fighting off the ropes throughout the whole fight. I hope he fights an orthodox fighter in September though. I want to see how he'd approach that fight to see if he can really use his legs. He won't need to use his legs against Guerrero, but he'll have to turn back the clock and use his legs if/when he plans on fighting Canelo.


                  Personally i don't think he will be on the ropes much at all. I reckon the plan is to move in the first 6 rds and slowly let the right hands to the body and body attack in general wear Gueereo down, then Floyd will walk Guerrero down and force him onto the back foot for the last 6 rds, where he will in all likelihood be ineffectual. It's amazing to me how many pro fighters have real problems fighting once they have to do so off the back foot.

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                  • vacon04
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by !! Shawn
                    Canelo proved tonight he is what we thought he is. A bigger stronger younger fresher Miguel Cotto.

                    Cotto gave Floyd arguably the hardest fight of his career, Canelo would push it over the edge and give Floyd his first loss in a close decision.

                    Canelo's main problem was with Trout's reach, vs Floyd it wouldn't be a problem, and while he would get tagged, he will be tagging Floyd as well.
                    Canelo has even worse stamina than Cotto (something that is almost impossible to do but Canelo did it)

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                      #70
                      Canelo via Stanley Christoldolou

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