Naseem Hamed vs Nonito Donaire - who wins

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  • Jam Jars
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    #61
    Originally posted by SoggyLungs
    it's not the power that was the defining factor in beating donaire that night...it's the fact that rigo used good movement, defense and utilized good counter punching...just watch nassem against hamed and you can't tell me that donaire couldn't beat him...

    i mean just look at this bull****....jumps right into a left hook :/



    Yes look at that, he was hit with clean punches that didn't hurt him at all, Hamed has one of the greatest chins ever.

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    • Floyd Junior
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      #62
      Prince's chin was actually really good. He only really got knocked down due to balance. Donaire needs people to come at him. Prince doesn't do that. He too used to sit back and look for counters. It would have been an uneventful fight. Both would have frustrated one another. But I'd go with a prime Prince who had God-like power. If Rigo can hurt Donaire and make him respect his power, imagine what Prince would do.

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      • Floyd Junior
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        #63
        LMAO! Are people here comparing Darchinyan to Hamed?! Oh my goodness. Ignorance at its best. Instead of going off youtube highlights of the Barrera fight, take a look Hamed properly in his prime. Darchinyan. Pfttt!

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        • deejd
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          #64
          Originally posted by Capncrunch
          at what, 115? hamed at 122/126 scares nonito into his shell just like rigo did. hamed takes the decision
          This^^^^^. Can't question guy's loyalty to Donaire; even after the hype job got schooled.

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          • elfag
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            #65
            Donaire wins.

            Donaire loosing to rigo has no impact on this matchup. Hamed and Rigo are complete opposites.

            Hamed will still get schooled by someone with the power, speed, skills and chin of donaire. Hes got everything to bother hamed.

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              #66
              Originally posted by Own3d
              Comparing Darchinyan to Hamed. LOL

              Hamed ate massive punches and never once looked like he was seriously hurt.
              The only fight where Hamed was hurt was the Kevin Kelly fight... aside that he had a solid chin. The mere fact that some of these posters honestly think that Donaire has a slew of advantages compared to Hamed is out of sheer bias. Hamed had freakish power in both hands and was similar to Sweet Pea. Only a technician could pose problems for Hamed. Hamed beats Donaire at '22 or '26.

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              • Roy Jones Jnr
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                #67
                Originally posted by Own3d
                It's obvious that most of the people saying Hamed would lose haven't seen many of his fights.
                It's obvious that most of the people on this forum that post anything about Hamed haven't seen any of his fights apart from the Barrera fight.

                Whilst it was a clear win for Barrera you'd think Barrera knocked him the **** out in a single round the way the majority of this forum talks about Hamed.

                Losing to a ATG in Marco Antonio Barrera doesn't simply erase all the **** that he achieved before he fought Barrera. That doesn't erase the fact that he ruled the featherweight division for over 5 years.

                Whilst you now check on his wiki/boxrec page and don't see many names that stand out on his W list, at the time they were the best around in his division. Whilst that may not stand up to the Boxingscene forum standards we have on here, at the time they were solid wins. Not ATG wins, but certainly not cab drivers like this forum would have you believe.

                And it's not like he ran away and was never to be seen again after Barrera. I highly doubt most of these lot even know that Hamed fought again after Barrera, winning the IBO title nonetheless

                Did he fulfill his potential? Absolutely not. He could have achieved so much more. However, let's not forget what he did achieve. He was the FW kingpin for 5 years, yet these lot judge him based on a single loss to an ATG, as if losing to Barrera automatcially makes him a bum

                At the end of the day, who the **** am i. To each their own opinion. It is my opinion though that Hamed is criminally underrated on here.

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                • deejd
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by SoggyLungs
                  it's not the power that was the defining factor in beating donaire that night...it's the fact that rigo used good movement, defense and utilized good counter punching...just watch nassem against barrera and you can't tell me that donaire couldn't beat him...

                  i mean just look at this bull****....hands down and jumps right into a left hook :/
                  Are you joking? With all the punches Donaire walked through at lighter weight classes, even at '22 he wasn't phased by anything thrown at him... Rigo's power was one of the main reasons he won. He exposed what Donaire can't do, think and box. Rigo even took Donaire's punches well. Get off the train man, we tried telling you last year.
                  Last edited by deejd; 04-18-2013, 06:56 PM.

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                  • Fetta
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Floyd Junior
                    Prince's chin was actually really good. He only really got knocked down due to balance. Donaire needs people to come at him. Prince doesn't do that. He too used to sit back and look for counters. It would have been an uneventful fight. Both would have frustrated one another. But I'd go with a prime Prince who had God-like power. If Rigo can hurt Donaire and make him respect his power, imagine what Prince would do.
                    I agree. Prince got knocked down cause his style was awkward and he was constantly off balance. He had one of the hardest punches I've ever seen at that weight. Prince crushes Nonito easily I think

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                    • edgarg
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by inITtoWINit
                      LMFAO. Is this a serious question?

                      Naseem had a pension for getting tagged early, and KD all the time. What in the hell do you think Donaire would do to him, while he came in with a lunging uppercut from 5 feet away?

                      He's tailor made for anyone with counterpunching, and not a brawler/puncher.
                      Too young to have a pension; i know he had a penchant for getting tagged early. But I believe that a peak, motivated Hamed would beat anyone at his weight. A ferocious punch, a really good unorthodox defence, and a brilliant habit of switching from southpaw to orthodox and back depending on where the last punch had positioned his feet. Very unorthodox.

                      When he fought Barrera he had been completely unmotivated for a few years, and had contemplated retiring because of his brittle hands. There were several TV interviews over the years, where this was mentioned. I saw pictures of his hands-they were grotesque looking, broken and rebroken many times over.

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