Rigondeaux vs Mayweather...

[Cinci Champ]

most people saying something dont make it right most people dont have a clue anyway you know that

[damit305]

If you want the simple answer excitement, plus seeing someone get after Floyd a bit is not a common thing. So seeing a guy win 4 rounds against him is made out to be a bigger deal than it is (I think 4 rounds is rather generous to be honest but that is neither here not there).

Rigondeaux dominated and it was not really expected but some people just can't dig how he did it. Even though Nonito totally being unable and unwilling to do anything played a huge role in why the fight went like that. Plus the guy that is losing should be the one to try and do something he seemed content to lose by the end.


This doesn't have anything to do with this thread but I feel like putting it here because I feel you are being more sincere than most. I don't want to compare Floyd and Rigondeaux because to me they are vastly different fighters despite both being very skillful but the main difference is they fight out of different stances. Rigondeaux is the next guy in the line of very crafty lefties so I find it hard to compare with what Floyd does out of an orthodox stance~ to me it is like baseball you don't really compare righties and lefties. But that is just me and I felt like saying that.

So Floyd is entitled?

Donaire was the media darling coming in. Many credible experts had to completely contradict themselves and due to egos bash Rigondeaux?

Rigondeaux did the unforgiving therefore he should pay?

[Cinci Champ]

ive always felt rigo didnt get enough respect ive always loved the way he fights and it always irritated me when people says hes boring i think its the opposite

[Cinci Champ]

people just dont have enough respect for the small things faints and movement and such its like if its not a landed punch its nothing to them

[The Gambler1981]

So Floyd is entitled?

Donaire was the media darling coming in. Many credible experts had to completely contradict themselves and due to egos bash Rigondeaux?

Rigondeaux did the unforgiving therefore he should pay?

What do you mean by entitled?

Floyd get's a certain treatment, it has it's positives and negatives but guys who fight him don't even have to beat him they just have to look like they belong to gain in reputation.

Donaire for how highly he is thought of was not at that level, not close to it really. It is kind of unfair and it might be an ego thing but keep in mind most of those people are writing for the larger audience and come on we both know the casual fans most likely did not find that a great performance. I am not a big fan of most boxing writers anyways for reasons like this, because I am not their target audience.

Boxing heads should love the performance though, I certainly didn't have an issue with Rigondeaux's performance.

[RiC-DiC]

I'm a Floyd fan and I don't like Rigo because he ONLY COUNTERS and he literally RUNS (which his fans call "footwork") for 80% of the fight. After Saturday's boring performance, people all of a sudden jumped to the conclusion that Rigo is a better boxer - with better "footwork" - than FLOYD (LMAO)! One can't call Floyd a runner after what Rigo did on Saturday. Rigo took it to that next level.. Fight fans will buy Floyd's fights and respect him because he can actually fight like a professional. Rigo has elite-level boxing skills, but poor fighting skills (when he tries to fight, he gets dropped or wobbled), so only a few pure boxing fans can appreciate his boring run-outpoint style..

That's the POV of the average fight fan. They simply won't buy PPV to watch Rigo (he said after the Donaire match that he's not changing his style, which is just shooting himself in the pocket).

[damit305]

What do you mean by entitled?

Floyd get's a certain treatment, it has it's positives and negatives but guys who fight him don't even have to beat him they just have to look like they belong to gain in reputation.

Donaire for how highly he is thought of was not at that level, not close to it really. It is kind of unfair and it might be an ego thing but keep in mind most of those people are writing for the larger audience and come on we both know the casual fans most likely did not find that a great performance. I am not a big fan of most boxing writers anyways for reasons like this, because I am not their target audience.

Boxing heads should love the performance though, I certainly didn't have an issue with Rigondeaux's performance.

Unfortunately, those writing for the larger audience find it fit for only certain ones to have an 'unfriendly' boxing style.

[The Gambler1981]

Unfortunately, those writing for the larger audience find it fit for only certain ones to have an 'unfriendly' boxing style.

Yea, they do what they do which I normally don't care about because if I decide to read I know the deal and am reading to see a different perspective.

It just kills me when others parrot the stuff some hack writes

[Grimgash]

didn't realize that Rigondo was getting hate from the boxing media. and Cotto got love for giving Floyd a tougher fight than was expected

Rigo isn't getting hate from the boxing media, he just isn't get as much props as Cotto did for winning maybe 3 rounds vs Mayweather, which is what I gave him. Floyd is looked at as THE guy and bloodying his nose, which imo doesn't mean much... gave Cotto a lot of credit. The real answer though is two part... excitement which Rigo-Donaire unless you're a purist most def wasn't. As well as Floyd being THE guy in boxing right now. Donaire was considered good, but no one besides Floyd haters would put him on Mayweathers level before the Rigo fight.

[B-Bomber]

There are two ways to look at it, in my opinion.

It was a great win for Rigondeaux, and very good performance. Apart from the KD, Rigo was nearly perfect.

It though, wasn't a 'great' fight, and people blame Rigondeaux' style, which is only partially true.

Rigo did what he had to do, only took some risk in the first couple of rounds and then in the last. It'd have been ****** to do otherwise.

On the other hand, Donaire's punch output dropped, which is what often happens when fighting a skilled, fast counter puncher.

In my opinion the reason why it wasn't a particularly amazing fight, is also because Donaire kept on 'playing chess' with Rigo, even when it was rather clear he wouldn't win that way.

True, Nonito tried many different things, but never -really- committed. He jabbed for 2 rounds or so, then decided to go to the body. Towards the end of the fight he was only looking for a big shot (and got punished).

If the fight, although interesting, wasn't great, it's not only because of Rigo's style, which by the way will probably make you look bad 90% of the times, but also because Donaire seemed to have nothing more to give. Even after the KD he didn't manage to bring the issue to Rigo.