Floyds Pulled Ahead of Manny ATG-Wise

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Mayweather is not fighting often enough to deserve all the fanboy glory. His level of opposition is ok but fighting once every year or so at best is nothing to brag about.

Pac fought 13 fights in a span of 5 years while Floyd just 4 times. Floydiots can't even do math and these.4 wins Floyd can't even brag about.

Past prime Mosley and Cotto
Weight cheated Marquez
Sucker punched Ortiz

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Pac fought 13 fights in a span of 5 years while Floyd just 4 times. Floydiots can't even do math and these.4 wins Floyd can't even brag about.

Past prime Mosley and Cotto
Weight cheated Marquez
Sucker punched Ortiz

The same mosley pacquiao ducked remember, the same mosley everyone said floyd wouldn't fight, and he did. floyd beat marquez more convincingly in 12 rounds than pac could in 48

[Juof]

I feel manny has still got alot to offer even if he did get iced by marquez its a shame he will be fighting alvarado though he will make it look easy guerrero is definately a harder fight than alvarado

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The same mosley pacquiao ducked remember, the same mosley everyone said floyd wouldn't fight, and he did. floyd beat marquez more convincingly in 12 rounds than pac could in 48

So he should have, considering he didn't even make weight after making Marquez move up 2 divisions. Anything different would be damaging for Floyd

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So he should have, considering he didn't even make weight after making Marquez move up 2 divisions. Anything different would be damaging for Floyd

marquez had to put on basically no weight to fight at 147. he walks around the same weight floyd does, juan himself has said weight wasnt the issue, it was his style

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marquez had to put on basically no weight to fight at 147. he walks around the same weight floyd does, juan himself has said weight wasnt the issue, it was his style

So why the catchweight? And why did Floyd need to cheat the agreed weight? Just because he paid for it doesn't mean there wasn't a reason for doing so

[Nagabilly]

Yeah man people sometimes forget Pac's work before 147. Floyd is only greater at 147 and up

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So why the catchweight? And why did Floyd need to cheat the agreed weight? Just because he paid for it doesn't mean there wasn't a reason for doing so

they renegotiated the contract actually, marquez didnt seem to mind.

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they renegotiated the contract actually, marquez didnt seem to mind.

Why would Floyd need to renegotiate his weight? What reasons could there be for that? Especially so close to the fight.

Marquez had never been over 135lb, he was fighting at 130lb literally the year before. But Floyd needed the extra lb's anyway.

I personally do not know if Marquez "minded" or not, but that's his mentality. Your response does not tell me why Floyd needed to cheat the agreed weights, and change days before the fight. Marquez may not have minded, but Floyd seemed desperate to get as much advantage as possible, against a lightweight.

You make a terrible case for the Floyd-Marquez fight. Floyd should fight him now whilst hes ranked highly p4p and at Welterweight, not making him come up 2 divisions and then cheating the agreed catchweight. Pac's fights with Marquez were far more significant.

All this is even despite the fact that styles make fights. Pac may have a hard time with Marquez's style, yet that doesn't mean Floyd is higher on the ATG list. In fact, it highlights Pac's willingness to take a challenge knowing his prior 3 fights with him were so close.

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Why would Floyd need to renegotiate his weight? What reasons could there be for that? Especially so close to the fight.

Marquez had never been over 135lb, he was fighting at 130lb literally the year before. But Floyd needed the extra lb's anyway.

I personally do not know if Marquez "minded" or not, but that's his mentality. Your response does not tell me why Floyd needed to cheat the agreed weights, and change days before the fight. Marquez may not have minded, but Floyd seemed desperate to get as much advantage as possible, against a lightweight.

You make a terrible case for the Floyd-Marquez fight. Floyd should fight him now whilst hes ranked highly p4p and at Welterweight, not making him come up 2 divisions and then cheating the agreed catchweight. Pac's fights with Marquez were far more significant.

All this is even despite the fact that styles make fights. Pac may have a hard time with Marquez's style, yet that doesn't mean Floyd is higher on the ATG list. In fact, it highlights Pac's willingness to take a challenge knowing his prior 3 fights with him were so close.

-No it proves the gap in ability to win a fight against highly skilled fighters without much problem like Mayweather has pretty much done his whole career. the fact that its taken manny this many tries to beat his ATG rival speaks volumes.
-everyone knows pac tried cherrypicking marquez in the 3rd fight
-if weight was such an issue why isnt marquez screaming and shouting for a rematch against floyd, like he has for pacquiao the last decade? lol...he knows he cant ever beat floyd.