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[The Smash]

The comment section on the article is pretty funny. People are putting it on GB/The ring and it's the first time I've ever seen boxing unanimously agree on something.

I'm just waiting for someone to post "Well, if you watch all off Broner and Rigondeaux's fights with the sound off, you will see beating Demarco and Rees is more impressive than routing Donaire."

[Rome-By-Ko]

I'm a Bradley fan but come on, he's struggled in his last two bouts and arguably lost both (I had him winning one, losing one). Right now I have him 11-15. Maybe if he moved back to 140 he would be back on the list, but he doesn't look like a WW right now.

As to Mayweather, your reasoning about him being #1 for being dominant for so long is shaky. Why isn't Wladimir Klitschko at the top if that's the case? It also goes to how your formulate a list, recent body of work is important imo. Mayweather didn't clear out his current division like Ward just did and beat the No.1 guy in the division above he didn't KO the PFP No.1 inside 6 rounds like Marquez just did. Mayweather should be on there, but lower imo.

As too Bradley,it's a matter of opinion that he lost either..Facts are he has won both of his last fight,no matter the fashion..He won..You don't get booted off the P4P list for shaky performance(at least not on my list)..You should lose to lose ya spot,or at least be inactive..Bradley beat Pac,toughed out his last fight against Prov..He also seems to be on course for a big fight with Marquez..Add Bradley's full body of work..He is clearly a top 10 P4P fighter,no question..

I have the same argument for Mayweather bro,while Wlad was laid(tha fucck)out Mayweather was dominate bro..Once again,there is no question that May is the top of the sport..Mayweather has held the Ring belt at both 154lb and 147lb..Oh excuse me,and LW and JLW..Nuff said bro,Mayweather is the top of this sport..

[Weebler I]

As too Bradley,it's a matter of opinion that he lost either..Facts are he has won both of his last fight,no matter the fashion..He won..You don't get booted off the P4P list for shaky performance(at least not on my list)..You should lose to lose ya spot,or at least be inactive..Bradley beat Pac,toughed out his last fight against Prov..He also seems to be on course for a big fight with Marquez..Add Bradley's full body of work..He is clearly a top 10 P4P fighter,no question..

I have the same argument for Mayweather bro,while Wlad was laid(tha fucck)out Mayweather was dominate bro..Once again,there is no question that May is the top of the sport..Mayweather has held the Ring belt at both 154lb and 147lb..Oh excuse me,and LW and JLW..Nuff said bro,Mayweather is the top of this sport..

See we're using different criteria. "Body of work" or complete resume is a factor imo, but it's a current PFP list supposedly reflective of where the fighters are at today so imo you have to balance complete resume that with recent performances and achievements.

I think Bradley has dropped a bit, he's got the Ws but doesn't look the same force at WW where he's competing. Still, Marquez isn't a natural WW either so if that fight goes ahead it is a good match-up that Tim can win.

[Rome-By-Ko]

See we're using different criteria. "Body of work" or complete resume is a factor imo, but it's a current PFP list supposedly reflective of where the fighters are at today so imo you have to balance complete resume that with recent performances and achievements.

I think Bradley has dropped a bit, he's got the Ws but doesn't look the same force at WW where he's competing. Still, Marquez isn't a natural WW either so if that fight goes ahead it is a good match-up that Tim can win.

We're using a similar criteria,but your emphasizing current,but to become P4P it's always going to go based on a body of work..Then till now..You can't just strip a fighter of his spot because he did not look his best..If the fighter ot the victory he got the victory..I could understand moving him down..But off completely,can't agree..Bradley is overall a top 10 P4P fighter bro..

I feel the same for guy's like Froch and Mares..In my strong opinion,these guys all belong..

[vacon04]

As too Bradley,it's a matter of opinion that he lost either..Facts are he has won both of his last fight,no matter the fashion..He won..You don't get booted off the P4P list for shaky performance(at least not on my list)..You should lose to lose ya spot,or at least be inactive..Bradley beat Pac,toughed out his last fight against Prov..He also seems to be on course for a big fight with Marquez..Add Bradley's full body of work..He is clearly a top 10 P4P fighter,no question..

I have the same argument for Mayweather bro,while Wlad was laid(tha fucck)out Mayweather was dominate bro..Once again,there is no question that May is the top of the sport..Mayweather has held the Ring belt at both 154lb and 147lb..Oh excuse me,and LW and JLW..Nuff said bro,Mayweather is the top of this sport..

As this is a personal preference P4P list I think there are no "facts" like saying that Bradley won against Pac. Sure, the record says he won but when I make my P4P list I consider the fact that for me he didn't and that his performance wasn't good. Then he officialy barely beat an opponent that was considered inferior in Provodnikov, and for me the fight was actually a draw.

For me at this moment Bradley is a top 20 or top 15 P4P fighter, not a top 10. Does he has skills to be a top 10 P4P boxer? Sure, but with "beating" Pacquiao with a lot of controversy and barely beating Provodnikov is just not enough for me.

[Rome-By-Ko]

As this is a personal preference P4P list I think there are no "facts" like saying that Bradley won against Pac. Sure, the record says he won but when I make my P4P list I consider the fact that for me he didn't and that his performance wasn't good. Then he officialy barely beat an opponent that was considered inferior in Provodnikov, and for me the fight was actually a draw.

For me at this moment Bradley is a top 20 or top 15 P4P fighter, not a top 10. Does he has skills to be a top 10 P4P boxer? Sure, but with "beating" Pacquiao with a lot of controversy and barely beating Provodnikov is just not enough for me.

I can't be mad,as ya said..P4P is an opinionated list..I just use facts in my list,based off of fact..Bradley is undefeated,which means it's ridicules based on his overall resume to not have him on it..

Let me ask you,if Bradley struggles against Marquez,yet get's the win..Will you then put him the top 30 fighters in the sport??With each victory Bradley moves further down the P4P list..No matter how many legends he beats along the way..

I feel ya dog..

[vacon04]

I can't be mad,as ya said..P4P is an opinionated list..I just use facts in my list,based off of fact..Bradley is undefeated,which means it's ridicules based on his overall resume to not have him on it..

Let me ask you,if Bradley struggles against Marquez,yet get's the win..Will you then put him the top 30 fighters in the sport??With each victory Bradley moves further down the P4P list..No matter how many legends he beats along the way..

I feel ya dog..

It depends on the performance AND the judges. I have no problem with close wins, for example Kessler vs Froch that could've gone either way. What I have a problem with is with clear robberies. I can't consider a win for a fighter if I'm 100% sure that it wasn't a deserved victory. Clear recent examples are Williams vs Lara, Bradley vs Pacquiao, Abril vs Rios.
If Bradley struggles against Marquez but gets the decision in a close fight then that's ok, I would count it as a victory. On the other hand if Bradley clearly loses against Marquez but gets the victory then for me he has to go down in the rankings.
As I've said I'm not moving Bradley down on the rankings for barely beating Provodnikov because it was a close fight, but I'm not moving him up either because Provodnikov wasn't the best opponent and barely beating a guy who is clearly limited doesn't do a lot of good for you as a Top 15 or 20 P4P fighter.
If Bradley had beaten Pacquiao in a close fight then he would definitely be in my top 10 P4P list, but the truth is that he didn't win that fight and that's the only reason for me to rank him as top 15 and not top 10.

[pacmanis1]

My exact words when I read the list was "what the f@# is this s%#!!!". Hate on Rigo if you want and call him boring, but any fan with a bit of a brain can see he's one of the most talented guys p4p. At this point though why am I even surprised with The Ring. If anything it's surprising they don't have Canelo in the top 7.

[mathed]

How come Broner didn't drop off da list when he just got KO'd in sparring by a guy with 4 fights?

[turkas]

1. Mayweather
2. Ward
3. Marquez
4. Martinez
5. Broner
6. Pacquiao
7. Klitschko
8. Guerrero
9. Bradley
10. Donaire


Apparently, Donaire dropped down to 10th after his defeat to Rigondeaux. Rigondeaux still has no place, however.

Personally, I'd rank it

1. Mayweather/Ward
2. Ward/Mayweather (It all depends on Cinquo De Mayo)
3. Martinez
4. Marquez
5. Pacquiao
6. Rigondeaux
7. Klitschko
8. Bradley
10. Donaire

What do you all think?

The Ring is a complete joke now.



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