IMO most boxers are on some sort of PEDS

[Porter's Dad]

I came to this realisation a while ago. It's pretty obvious.

I'm also certain that Mayweather - you know, the guys who makes $30m a fight, who has been fighting once a year since hitting 30, who we know will never jeopardise that "0" - isn't playing it clean while everyone around him is juicing.

Which really makes his PED crusade even more laughable. Maybe he was jealous of Ariza's shakes.

[Porter's Dad]

YOUR 100% RIGHT
ive done steroids and can tell just by looking at someone if theyre on anything

How? And who are you totally convinced is? Genuinely curious.

[Tim2daresq]

YOUR 100% RIGHT
ive done steroids and can tell just by looking at someone if theyre on anything

Also through their actions, like roid rage, unpredictable actions, getting mad at reporters for the littlest things.

[Tom Cruise]

Great post TC. I knew someone would counter with this point. You most definitely are on point. There most definitely ways around RBU testing, especially if they're only testing during the period after the fight is signed to the fight night.

Alas these fighters are still negotiating something that is leaps and bounds better than the commission testing, and I will give them much more benefit of the doubt than fighters who are asking for no additional testing.

Yeah of course! Guys on the basic commission testing have to be a little su****ious. Unless they are guys who can't afford the proper testing (as far as i'm aware fighters have to pay out of their own pockets?) then all fighters should be on random blood and urine testing in this day and age

[Tim2daresq]

Yeah of course! Guys on the basic commission testing have to be a little su****ious. Unless they are guys who can't afford the proper testing (as far as i'm aware fighters have to pay out of their own pockets?) then all fighters should be on random blood and urine testing in this day and age

Only the guy in your signature was willing to do the real "random" tests, AKA year round.

[Tom Cruise]

Only the guy in your signature was willing to do the real "random" tests, AKA year round.

Donaire you mean? Yeah i have always given him props for that, even when working with Conte.

The reason lots of guys wont do it is because it comes out of your own pocket. Cant be cheap to employ VADA year round!

[Heavy Hitter]

Yeah of course! Guys on the basic commission testing have to be a little su****ious. Unless they are guys who can't afford the proper testing (as far as i'm aware fighters have to pay out of their own pockets?) then all fighters should be on random blood and urine testing in this day and age

I believe that a fighter has to pay for these testings unless their management team or promoter is insistent upon the testing, and they would pay it(unlikely?).

So yes, in its current state its hard to see a fighter thats making minimal money to pay for these tests. Also to point does anyone have an idea how much this testing costs, I have honestly no clue.
The cost to the fighters is another reason the commissions need to beef up their testing procedures.

[Tim2daresq]

Donaire you mean? Yeah i have always given him props for that, even when working with Conte.

The reason lots of guys wont do it is because it comes out of your own pocket. Cant be cheap to employ VADA year round!

Yeah, I mean certain fighters have all the money in the world, and shout to the rooftops about PED testing, but they don't undergo the process themselves.

I just don't get it.....

[The Tase]

there's nothing wrong with ped use.

none whatsoever.

Denying ped use is the same exact thing as denying human evolution.

Ped use is allowed and touted in other aspects of life but somehow it becomes some abhorrent immoral act when used in sports?

PLEASE GTFO with that BS and learn to think for yourself instead of letting the media guide your fake moral indignation.

[Tim2daresq]

there's nothing wrong with ped use.

none whatsoever.

Denying ped use is the same exact thing as denying human evolution.

Ped use is allowed and touted in other aspects of life but somehow it becomes some abhorrent immoral act when used in sports?

PLEASE GTFO with that BS and learn to think for yourself instead of letting the media guide your fake moral indignation.

But in combat sports???